[la6471]

Why do someone need to move to SFO in the first place? Jobs are plentiful nowadays everywhere. So it’s not that for tech jobs one need to move to SFO. Yes one may want to live in Hong Kong , Singapore , Dubai , Mumbai , Paris or SFO but like all over the world certain places have higher per square foot cost than other places.

[justahuman74]

Many people move half-way across the world to live in SF, and it's _only_ for the jobs. There is no other reason.

[azinman2]

I think you’ve spent too much time in the tech scene. There are other types in SF, which is a city that has a lot to offer.

[daniel-cussen]

I'm not so sure. I used to party in SF and it was indeed vibrant, but that was more than seven years ago. The tech scene has pushed all the eclectic, weird-haircut, artsy, broke-but-beautiful, etc, scene to places where it is actually able to function economically, with some people telling me about Brooklyn being a better place for that.

Certainly the last few times I've been there, before the pandemic, it was like entering the matrix, you get on a ferry and you show up at the Ferry Building, and boom, you're inside the internet, you went through the monitor of your computer. Ads for ad platforms everywhere, startup credit cards, everything targeting startup founders, and you know what that means? Fucking crazy abusive inescapable prices. Even at the MacDonald's, my best recollection is $8.30 for a quarter-pounder. No wonder you would get assistance from the City if you made less than $120,000.

[daniel-cussen]

I'll add that this pushing-out has made the scene lose critical mass.

[throwaway6734]

That's where a lot of very high paying jobs are

[CincinnatiMan]

Are the people with very high paying jobs the same people that need help from rezoning?

[rcpt]

Yes. Because if you don't build housing at every scale the bottom level becomes Sao Paulo slums

[daniel-cussen]

Those slums are actually remarkably better than "poblaciones callampa" (shroom villages) that popped up in the middle of nowhere in the rest of South America. Those favelas have water, electricity, and solid brick construction. And they're painted pretty colors, what's not to like? The real slums of the world where people who have nowhere to go come together and squat are really much less comfortable than that.

[rcpt]

Are the shroom villages in the middle of booming economic growth?

[daniel-cussen]

Ah...no, more along the dumps and untilled land.

[epicureanideal]

Housing currently costs so much that it's nearly unaffordable even for tech workers.

[azinman2]

No the people who need help were here before the techies came to the city.