[michaelhartm]

* Databricks is unethical

* Nobody should benchmark anymore, just focus on customers instead

* But hey, we just did some benchmarks and we look better than what Databricks claims

* Btw, please sign up and do some benchmarks on Snowflake, we actually ship TPC-DS dataset with Snowflake

* Btw, we agree with Databricks, let's remove the DeWitt clause, vendors should be able to benchmark each other!

* Consistency is more important than anything else!!!

[uvdn7]

I don’t think they are saying benchmark is not important but rather public benchmark war being a distraction.

[kingkongv2]

If people have never heard of Databricks, now is the time because a 100 billion company just started a war against them. Great marketing win Databricks.

[glogla]

Databricks is $28B valuation and 2800 employees, Snowflake is $109 valuation and 2500 employees.

They are both billion dolar companies, we're hardly talking David and Goliath here.

[alexott]

for DB that's old number - recent valuation is $38B

[geoduck14]

To be fair, I've been equating Databricks for a month or so. Databricks is coming after Snowflake. Snowflake doesn't care. Snowflake has a pretty solid moat with:

EASY SQL, data sharing (they have a marketplace), simple scaling

[bpaneural]

You'll need to revisit this again. In the last two years Databricks has built a lead and a bigger moat. They're essentially nice chaps with a huge community backing them. And we all love their open source tools which essentially powers not only their big data platforms, but everyone else's too (AWS, GCP).

[ageek123]

Databricks introduced an open source data sharing feature earlier this year. I don't know Databricks well enough to comment on the other two.

[cloudbonsai]

The interesting part is that Snowflake omits Databricks' performance scores in their graphs. Here is how they compare on TPC-DS benchmark, based on two companies' self-reports:

* Elapsed time: 3108s (Databricks) vs 3760s (Snowflake)

* Price/Peformance: $242 (Databricks) vs $267 (Snowflake)

Needless to say, these numbers seriously need a verification by independent 3rd parties, but it seems that Databricks is still 18% faster and 10% cheaper than Snowflake?

[geoduck14]

The way I read this is: DataBricks benchmarked against us, and they messed it up. Here is hou YOU should evaluate Snowflake performance. And, by the way, it is pretty easy to do it.