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by kule 1687 days ago
I understand the frustration, especially if your first impression of Apple is a MacBook Pro is in the 2016-2019 era - you've probably seen the worst MacBooks available and not the best of Apple.

There were some good things, the displays were excellent, the touchpad is still the best in class, and the size/weight were excellent.

But usb-c only was step too far, the Touch Bar wasn't the right move for a Pro audience (i), there wasn't enough room for cooling the intel chips and the keyboard situation was farcical - it's the primary interface to a Mac (can you imagine the outcry if iPhones had touch displays randomly not working, doing extra touches etc?!).

I think Apple gets a lot of leeway because the 2008-2015 MacBook Pros were probably the best laptops you could buy.

Having owned a 2009 MacBook Pro which in my opinion was the best laptop I'd ever owned and never made me question the amount of money I spent on it. The 2016 MacBook Pro was the exact opposite (mainly due to the keyboard being so bad).

I'm glad Apple have come to their senses and course corrected. I do wonder though for people that have only seen the 2016-2019 era if they will bother to try Apple again...

(i) I understand it probably would've made it too expensive to produce but I think the Touch Bar would've gone down well on a MacBook Air where I would imagine there's a lot more hunt-and-peck typists that'd appreciate and notice what's being displayed on the Touch Bar. As a touch typist I never looked down to see the Touch Bar so it was a mostly wasted on me.

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> I'm glad Apple have come to their senses and course corrected. I do wonder though for people that have only seen the 2016-2019 era if they will bother to try Apple again...

I'm one of those angry bastards, and I even own an M1 Macbook Air. The hardware is impressive, no doubt, but MacOS frustrates me so much these days that I cannot daily-drive it for my workflow. Plus, once you make the switch to Linux it's really hard to see Apple products as an upgrade anymore. You're giving away your freedom, and condemning yourself to paying $8 to manage your windows properly or $10 just to hide some statusbar icons. And when all is said-and-done, I can't move that statusbar to the left side of my screen... God it frustrates me endlessly. When I saw how Big Sur redesigned everything, I just gave up on the OS altogether. The thousand papercuts I feel on MacOS are reduced to a couple hundred on Linux, the majority of which I can automate away without worrying about some bigger company pulling the rug out from under me.

I really wanted Apple Silicon to be a barnburner for me, and I was hoping beyond hope that they would take the extra space savings to add an M.2 drive or an easier to repair chassis. At this point though, I think I'm contented to just stop caring. Apple courageously headed in a direction I'm not ready to follow in, so I cut them loose in exchange for all my sweet creature comforts. And how comforting it is.

I sympathize with many of your takes, but have you looked into Framework[1] laptops?

They're currently only Intel based, but there's a marketplace where you can buy or sell just the mainboards once the AMD, RISC V, or ARM64 models become available.

[1] https://frame.work/

Framework looks great! I actually have no real need to upgrade my hardware right now though, as all my devices still run fine. I'd be very interested in picking up a RISC-V model once it hits manufacturing though, they seem very promising.