[nikanj]

Yes. But the computer is very, very, very thin. Which sells more computers than actual performance under load.

Benchmarks show the MB having decent performance, as they start cold and don’t have external devices attached either. Thermal throttling only shows up once you’ve already bought

[bierjunge]

I have the 2019 MBP 16" with i9 inside and it's terrible for any task heavier than browsing the internet or watching cat videos.

Running CMake + gcc on a bigger project? The fans start running like crazy. The performance of the i9 is awesome, at least for the first 1-2 minutes, after that the CPU is throttling you back to the 90's and the fans are spinning even louder.

But this is not even the funniest issue with it. I have the biggest and most performant charger (96W, pretty much the maximum, because the USB-C standard states, you can only push up to 100W through it). You may think, if Apple put that charger in the box, it should be enough to achieve max performance with it AND still be able to charge it. Nope, but maybe it would be at least enough power, so the battery is not discharged. Lol, nope, higher load for a extended time WILL discharge your battery while being connected to the power supply.

I've tested it with two separate MBP with exactly the same spec (i9 + 32GB RAM + Radeon 5500M 8GB) with exactly the same behavior.

[toxik]

Pulling 100W on a laptop is pretty impressive though, that’s insane. Can you attach two chargers?

[officeplant]

Trying to keep that hardware to 100W is insane given similarly spec'd windows laptops will have up to 250w chargers and sometimes two of them if you have serious GPU power.

[sbr464]

You can, but it will only use one, switching to the highest wattage automatically.

[dahfizz]

> Yes. But the computer is very, very, very thin. Which sells more computers than actual performance under load.

No. Apple sells computers regardless, but now that "form over function" Johnny Ive has left Apple, Mac sales have actually shot up. People want their computer to look and feel good, but it still needs to function as a computer. Now that the actual functionality of the Mac is a priority again, they are selling better.

[hunter2_]

Reminiscent of the Volkswagen dieselgate situation where emissions are fine during the EPA test drive but horrible otherwise. This sort of thing will probably haunt us forever, in various forms.