[angusturner]

As someone familiar with the old react API, I agree 100% about useEffect being super arcane.

There's just too much magic going on, which is the same thing that makes me reluctant to write Vue or Svelte (after reading this)

[0x142857]

If you use `<script setup>` in Vue, yeah it's some compiler magic similar to Svelte, but otherwise that's not really the case, for example Vue tracks depdendencies using ES6 Proxy, which is just a language feature.