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by Chris2048 1679 days ago
There's (famously) a spectrum for autism, and individual differences in any case. You can't speak for the whole spectrum just for placing somewhere on it.
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Oh, but the parent comment gets to speak for the whole spectrum by saying that autistic people wouldn't know that they shouldn't make rape jokes in public because they are autistic? Without citing any sources, or having any qualifications to do so, or even claiming to speak from personal experience?

Perhaps you should direct your comment to them.

> gets to speak for the whole spectrum

I don't see any claim that they speak for the spectrum, i.e. no appeal to authority/identity. Sure, it means they don't provide a basis for their claims, but in this case I am attacking what I see as an invalid basis.

Also:

> by saying that autistic people wouldn't know that..

They said "Autists often don't.." i.e they aren't speaking about all/any/every, but some. They are talking about some subset of the population.

> Perhaps you should direct your comment to them.

What I feel is worth spending time criticising is my business. Given the hedge of talking about some autistic people it's almost certainly true without qualification.

> or even claiming to speak from personal experience

OP didn't talk from PE of other autistic people, but purely from their own behaviour, i.e. an n=1 generalisation.

Look, the OP implied that autism maybe be a likely reason why someone could be observed regularly making denigrating jokes like "9 out of 10 people enjoy gang rape", because we lack "social awareness" to tell otherwise.

As an autistic person, who knows other autistic people, and is a part of online community of autistic people, I'll go out on limb and say that the OP is talking out of their ass, and I can comfortably speak on the behalf of the community on this topic. Other people who identified as being on the spectrum in this thread agreed.

OP never said they were autistic. It's just what they think autistic people would do.

It's an n=√-1 generalization: purely imaginary, and on top of it, insulting, because figuring out why a joke like "9 out of 10 people enjoy gang rape" is bad doesn't take that much.

Particularly because so much has been written about it. Go ahead and read [1], it's an excellent article. Or my comments elsewhere.

TL;DR: portraying the condition of "being a jerk" as an autistic trait is a jerk move.

>What I feel is worth spending time criticising is my business.

Then perhaps you should spend less time criticizing, and more time getting a clue — though again, I'm sure you have different plans regarding that too.

[1] https://theconversation.com/psychology-behind-the-unfunny-co...

Does it take much to figure out if your tone is off?
Not at all, people misread my tone so often that I might as well assume it's off all the time.

It works both ways though; sometimes I'm trying to tell someone to go fuck themselves in a polite way, and for some reason it takes them forever to get the hint.

I've learned to be patient in either case.