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by wffurr 1687 days ago
Part of the problem is the very slow release cadence of Safari. Features are tied to annual OS releases, bug fixes seem to often not meet the bar for incremental updates, which have no discernable schedule.
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This here is for me one of the biggest problems with Apple. I imagine this sort of eye of Sauron inside the company, whatever the eye rests on gets attention, anything else takes a back seat. They don’t seem to be able to multitask.

There are severe bugs in iOS Mail app for instance that have been there for years, through major iOS versions. How difficult would it be to have a team dedicated to fixing bugs outside the release cycle? It would provide a great environment for up and coming developers. And I can’t help thinking that fixing these paper cut issues would gain Apple respect, maybe not from the average user, but certainly from the sort of user that notices those details.

And perhaps also an easier way of raising bugs…

I think Safari is now the only big non-evergreen browser remaining out there, and I think it's really holding it back. On both security fixes and features.

I hope some point in the future Apple untie Safari from macOS and iOS so they can be updated independently without having to wait months to operating system updates to come out..

Safari actually does get backported to previous macOS releases, at least during betas. You can run the Safari "Technology Preview" on n-1 macOS. https://developer.apple.com/safari/technology-preview/

But they aren't backported on iOS, I assume purely for marketing (look at our new tab layout! you'll get it in the fall), which doesn't make sense considering the last time anyone cared about a browser feature was probably when tabs were added to IE7.

Yeah they've always updated Safari on the previous version of macOS, but that's pretty far from being evergreen, and the average user isn't going to be using the technology preview.

Take Chrome for example, where there's roughly an update every 60 days and the option for them to push out security fixes quicker.

Imagine having to wait for an operating system update (major or minor version) to just get the latest secure version of Chrome. That's pretty much where Safari is, especially on iOS.

Don't get me wrong, I think Safari gets a lot of unwarranted hate and it can certainly be a bit quirky here and there, but if they didn't have to wait for the next major/minor release of macOS/iOS to update Safari I think it'd be in a much better place.

Honestly just isn't in their interest to do so anymore, and that's messed up.