[judge2020]

Well, you can't, but it'd be the same story as if you only had a Mac in 2006 and wanted to test IE6. Consumers have a choice for the devices they use, so it might make business sense to test changes with hardware your customers use at the same frequency or more often than you do on your own preferred hardware.

[jabbany]

Exactly, hence the implication should be that _Safari_ is the IE6 of 2021 rather than, according to the OP, Chrome.

[Dma54rhs]

As dumb as it was, IE was providing free VMs preloaded with IE versions for developers. Apple is horribly developer hostile. My company refuses to test and run around with Safari bugs, the advice is to install a better browser.

[jtbayly]

Then I won’t be a customer. Is the best quality browser for me. Not perfect, but better than the alternatives. I’m happy to walk away from the tiny number of sites that break in Safari. And that’s just on desktop where I could use something besides Safari if I wanted to.

Whereas you’re literally saying you’re happy to walk away from over 35% of mobile users, while telling them to do something they can’t do without replacing their device. That’s… one way to run a business.

[breakfastduck]

Depends on the context of course but this generally rings true.

The amount of business we would be losing by ignoring mobile safari users is staggering. For whatever reason it's also the majority browser, I dont think its safe to assume that the users of your site using safari are equal to the percentage of the market share even.

Ignoring it is a very unusual stance unless your site/app is basically exclusively desktop.

[masklinn]

> As dumb as it was, IE was providing free VMs preloaded with IE versions for developers.

Not in 2006 no. MS started providing free VMs for browser testing circa 2013, after the release of IE10.