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by iso1210
1686 days ago
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How? Here's a 4 digit number that's encrypted with a key. How am I going to decode that without the key? -----BEGIN PGP MESSAGE-----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=xrm9
-----END PGP MESSAGE-----
And here is the same number encrypted with the same key -----BEGIN PGP MESSAGE-----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=W9zc
-----END PGP MESSAGE-----
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Just to continue the conversation and maybe learn more, I think it's a safe assumption that generally:
- either a unique key would be stored in the database for each user similar to a salt (vulnerable to DB dump)
- or the key would be determinate from other info associated with each user (which would be reversible from hypothetical additional leaked source code)
- or there is a hardcoded key used for every single SSN (which would be vulnerable to `echo $ENV` or similar if attacker had shell access to the appropriate machine)
While not all database dumps will be done by someone with long-term root level access, is there a method which would secure SSN's against someone who has the access levels necessary to pull off the three above attacks?