[taylodl]

I can believe it. I stopped attending conferences in San Francisco. My last conference was in 2017 and I told my boss then I'm never going back. I've had several friends vacationing in SF going back to the 90's and they said they'd never go back and I always said they were over reacting (I've been going to SF on a regular basis for the past twenty years). Not anymore. The homeless were all over the sidewalks and they had added a new feature - aggressive dogs! People follow you into cafes and stand in line behind you and beg for food (which was already 1.5x-2x priced compared to anywhere else in the country). The BART station smells like a latrine. I could go on.

> The whole city has a apocalyptic vibe right now.

Yes - that's a good way to describe it and that's how I felt. It was unreal. Mind you I regularly visit NYC, Chicago, and Washington, D.C. They're all model cities compared to SF. I can tell you one thing - no job is worth living in SF. I'd either find another job or work remote and live elsewhere.