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by xupybd 1690 days ago
My worry would be that as the signal becomes well known abusers will learn it to. Then using the signal will put people at risk.
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From the FAQ:

What if an abuser learns about the signal?

As the signal is shared and becomes known by the public, there is a risk that an abuser might learn about it. People in abusive situations are also often closely monitored by the person harming them, and they may not always feel safe enough to use the signal.

There is no one-size-fits-all solution for everyone facing abuse. Everyone faces their own unique circumstance. The Signal for Help is one tool some people may be able to use, some of the time, to indicate they need help without leaving a digital trace.

It is important that people reach out for support if and when they feel ready, and they should do it in the ways that feel safest for them. People supporting them should be ready to help without judgement, and they should follow the lead of the person who needs help.

https://canadianwomen.org/signal-for-help/

That is a possibility, but being able to communicate without making a sound might still be useful.
can the 'tiktok scenius' react in real time and just instantly spread a new signal for the next person, don't underestimate how powerful that network is, has the highest quality interaction I have witnessed. more jokes than HN too
This why you do it when the abuser isn't looking.

In this case, he was driving and presumably looking ahead 99% of the time.

> My worry would be that as the signal becomes well known abusers will learn it

I'm so glad that the signal worked in this case, but you're absolutely correct: the problem with clandestine signals like this is that they need to be somewhat widely known to be effective, but if they become too widely known they become ineffective and even dangerous (since the bad actor would likely know the signal and intent).

I've heard stories about prevented tragedies via "code word" drink orders at bars -- maybe that tactic could be more widely applied (bars, restaurants, hotels, gas stations, etc.)

Source (as an example): https://twitter.com/iizzzzzi/status/788387942242914305

Being able to be made surreptitiously can be enough though. Nothing's foolproof, but if an abuser is trying to over-manage someone's communications or hand gestures, that itself is a give away for people to pay more attention.