[javajosh]

The more people start to internalize the truth that "if you ship it you own it" and stop adding dependencies and start removing them, especially if they come with their own wasteful dependencies, then ESM will make sense for everyone. Until then, you're right, devs have to go through unctuous mitigations.

[crooked-v]

It would be easier to do that if proposals for things like standard library functionality (not the contents of the standard library itself, just the syntax and technicalities of using it) were to go anywhere in, say, under five years.