[marcinzm]

The time spent setting it up and managing it and then having to deal with backups/environment clones/access control/scaling limitations/etc. outweighs the savings for almost any company paying US wages. Especially since you'd need metal for everything and not just the db due to network latency.

[rytcio]

I think you're over estimating how complicated that stuff is...

[marcinzm]

It's very easy to do it in a half-assed way and much harder to do it at scale in a production environment with many developers without hurting developer productivity at all.

[Nextgrid]

Every cloud-hosted startup I've consulted for had a full-time devops guy wrangling Terraform and YAML files. The cloud requires an equivalent time investment.

[marcinzm]

Bare metal requires the equivalent of all of that devops stuff and then more. That is if you actually want parity and not just a half assed version that hurts developer productivity and causes technical debt.