[HKH2]

So no forced vaccinations?

It's also wrong to force people to wear clothes in public?

Is it wrong to discourage someone from lying?

What if someone doesn't see the edge of a cliff and are about to step over it? Would you pull them back from it?

[Ancapistani]

> So no forced vaccinations?

Absolutely not. If you don’t want to be around someone who isn’t vaccinated, set up an area on private property where they aren’t allowed. Your property, your rules.

> It's also wrong to force people to wear clothes in public?

Yes.

> Is it wrong to discourage someone from lying?

Sure. Fraud is a crime, lying isn’t.

> What if someone doesn't see the edge of a cliff and are about to step over it?

A bystander has no requirement to intervene.

> Would you pull them back from it?

Yes, without question. Just because something is the right thing to do doesn’t mean it should be the law, backed with threat of violence.

[HKH2]

> Yes, without question. Just because something is the right thing to do doesn’t mean it should be the law, backed with threat of violence.

I thought your argument was about autonomy. If you had pulled them back, it would have been the result of thinking that you know better than the person about to accidentally walk off the cliff and acting on it.

I can see you have a strong distaste for moral busybodying, but I think there is an argument for discouraging people from wandering into unforeseen circumstances (not necessarily by the state).