[ValentineC]

> It is not the same as sapphire reserve and before times.

If I'm not wrong, cashing out Chase Ultimate Rewards points wasn't that lucrative until recently, when they introduced Pay Yourself Back — it was 1 cent per point before, and is much higher now for certain categories (groceries, restaurants) with Pay Yourself Back.

> The Amex ones are rewards points, and you have to play a lot of games to get the value.

For US residents, cashing out at 1.1 cents per point would be opening a Charles Schwab brokerage account and the linked Amex Platinum card, then "investing" the points. That doesn't sound too complicated.

(Speaking as a non-US resident playing the game myself: I do have extreme difficulty trying to get good cash value for my points, since Schwab refuses to open a brokerage account for me.)

[lotsofpulp]

Chase Ultimate Rewards got heavily nerfed since the Sapphire Reserve release. For the first couple years, you could get 1.5 cents per point for any travel (flight, car rental, hotel), and the price on the chase ultimate reward portal was the same you got via the actual airline or car rental or hotel website (i.e. the cheapest price.)

Then they made it so you had to use ultimate rewards via Expedia, and they bumped up all the prices, so effectively your UR points lost a ton of value. Searching the same flight on Expedia UR website was more expensive that directly going to the airline.

Then I stopped following because I had already canceled all my UR cards, but I assume they downgraded it even further because I heard they raised fees and substituted some benefits with door dash or lyft credits or something.

> For US residents, cashing out at 1.1 cents per point would be opening a Charles Schwab brokerage account and the linked Amex Platinum card, then "investing" the points. That doesn't sound too complicated.

I did not know this, but that seems okay. However, I have experience with AmEx being strict on people who constantly open cards for sign up bonuses.