[simion314]

>That's very much a "cover-your-ass" type disclaimer,

This is not true for all hardware configurations or true for all packages combination(including weird AUR ones) in the world. For sure if we Google if this really happens in the real world you will see that indeed update break things.

Also keeping up with upstream does not mean you only get the new features but also the new bugs, especially if you were using GNOME3 a fee years back at each new GNOME release the forums and reddit was filled with new memory leaks issue, new plugin/extension breakage issues and even GNOME not starting up.

[jorgemf]

Usually when gnome doesn't start up in arch it is due extensions which are not supported either gnome or arch. But you usually find them in AUR, which fix your issues quite quickly. I haven't had any issues with gnome 3 in arch since they move to it, apart from extensions and a couple of things not well integrated in Wayland+gnome. Said that, it has been much more a nightmare for me to install packages in docker images of Ubuntu.

[simion314]

My point is that in Arch you can't start your work day by updating your system, you might have to fix shit instead of working.

With an LTS distro I know when teh notification for updates appears that is a security thing and it is safe to update.

>Said that, it has been much more a nightmare for me to install packages in docker images of Ubuntu.

I am assuming you are trying to install something outside the official repos, like you want to get the latest node/python or some other latest stuff using a PPA. Those PPA might not be that good quality so you could get issues like conflicts. I am not a sysadmin or dev-ops guy to tell you what is the correct way to install newer version of stuff.

[jorgemf]

My point is that will lose more time installed unsupported packages than losing some time when arch breaks, because it rarely breaks (less than once a year). And fixes usually take 5 minutes

[simion314]

I think it depends on the user and hardware. Many years ago I had a laptop with an AMD GPU and CPU, it was new like 1 year old when AMD drop support for the driver. If I wanted decent compositing on Linux I had to stay with an older kernel and Xorg version so I used old Ubuntu LTSes and debian at that time. And i decided to never use AMD, I got an Intel+NVIDIA PC, but now it seems NVIDIA is the one with shit drivers, and I don't change my hardware often so I will continue using my GTX-970 as many years it will hold.

[jorgemf]

Many years ago is not the same in Linux in general. Try it now. I didn't have those issues in more than a decade. Everything worked out of the box