[diob]

Why do folks stay in abusive relationships or situations?

Humans are complicated. I can't explain their point of view or the context, but I'm sure there's a reason. Sometimes it can be financial even. Trauma is a hell of a thing.

Think about kids who've been abused by their parents. They typically still can't help but try and earn their love. Human brains are. . . fucky, to say the least.

[raducu]

> Why?

Why does Stockholm syndrome exist?

Because it benefits survival in a violent world.

Not politically correct, and absolutely not condoning violence, but a lot of women have a deep primeval sexual response(they lubricate) to displays of physical strength, dominance, aggression and violence.

[ceejayoz]

> Why does Stockholm syndrome exist?

It might not.

https://twitter.com/sezmohammed/status/1252500993972948992

[raducu]

What about occam's razor? I mean, setting aside the insinuations of woke individuals.

Does Stockholm syndrome exist?

No doubt in my mind that it exists from the Sabine Women to the Abduction at Shiloh and every ancient siege aftermath to the war brides of WW2, the evidence is overwhelming.

[ceejayoz]

> Sabine Women

May be entirely mythical, and certainly doesn't leave us with any useful evidence to evaluate from a psychotherapy standpoint.

> Abduction at Shiloh

OK, second pre-Christ example on the list, with only the Bible as evidence of its occurrence. Not super promising.

> war brides of WW2

I'm reasonably certain that didn't involve kidnapping at all.

[raducu]

> May be entirely mythical, and certainly doesn't leave us with any useful evidence to evaluate from a psychotherapy standpoint.

I know quite a bit about psychotherapy (Schema Therapy, CBT, DBT, Transactional Analysis) and I see very little use of such evolutionary explanations, even if correct to any form of therapy.

If Stockholm syndrome was real and if women were evolutionary inclined to physiologically respond to their captors sexual advances and later "infatuate" (so as not to suffer violence and that the children survive), how could that be useful in any way to psychotherapy or law or any other area of human life?

[ceejayoz]

What evolutionary explanation? What are you talking about?

The three examples you cited as evidence of Stockholm Syndrome are made up of two unverifiable cases from over two thousand years ago, and a third that isn't Stockholm Syndrome.

[hello4353]

"they lubricate". The same applies to some men(dominatrix, mistress, bdsm). How to reason this? My point is this is not gender specific.

[raducu]

Can you explain how men lubricate?

I'm not sure why people get triggered by anybody mentioning these facts. Do you think that I or others are saying women should have no agency because they lubricate or "worse" have orgasms during rape?

> My point is this is not gender specific

I think the only stuff that is firewalled into gender specificity could be stuff that's in the Y chromosome, and even that would be debatable.