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by manquer 1693 days ago
No doctor/hospital is going to harvest organs unless the person is warm and dead and all reasonable means of revival have been already tried.

Also even if revied would you even want to ? While anna as an exception didn't suffer from brain damage , it is likely, and even she had long term issues with nerve function paralysis etc.

Anna and other similar cases are a extreme rarity. policy shouldn't be made basis a one in a million chance, that's why we have vaccines enforced for example.

You can always opt-out or not opt-in depending in on jurisdiction I am sure.

There are plenty of people who opt for cryogenic storage after they die in the hope technology will evolve to revive them. That's natural step to this argument in a way , what if I could be revived some day even if not today ?

Ultimately handling life and death are intensely personal choices.

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> No doctor/hospital is going to harvest organs unless the person is warm and dead

Well, that's the thing. "warm and dead" is above and beyond the criteria you referenced earlier, "clinical death". I'd hope you're right, but I'm not convinced you are. It doesn't seem like it from what I've seen.

And, the cooling factor in brain damage prevention is becoming more widely known these days. Anna wasn't just a fluke.

What have you seen?
That Wikipedia article, which gives a definition of clinical death, and then talks about how clinical death is survivable.

According to that article, clinical death != warm and dead.

So on the basis of a Wikipedia article and with no further research, you’re now concerned people are harvesting organs when a person could potentially survive?

[0] is the Australian College of Intensive Care guidelines on organ harvesting. There are strict criteria around when a person is considered dead and for organ donation that means brain death.

I’m not sure what you’re worried about, this was easily discoverable - clinical death is not the criteria that is used for the determination of organ donation eligibility

[0] https://csds.qld.edu.au/sdc/Provectus/ELI/Module%202%20-%20O...

> So on the basis of a Wikipedia article and with no further research, you’re now concerned people are harvesting organs when a person could potentially survive?

No, I'm asking a question and having a discussion, and you decided to jump in with your hostile skepticism that's completely unwarranted. Chill out.

If you re read your comments, there is a tone of ‘they’re up to something and it can’t be good’. It’s as far from ‘I’m interested in this topic and would like to have a discussion to learn more’ as a QAnon follower is from a PhD student. I’m not the only one who picked up on it as you can see by the other commenter.
Tell me your a covid vaccine denier without telling me your a covid vaccine denier.