[Apes]

You mean 24-hour private meth dens?

San Francisco built a bunch of 24-hour public restrooms in the early 2000s downtown, and today they're horrendous. The problem is cyclical: people shit on the streets because there's no public restrooms -- but there's no public restrooms because San Francisco is filled with psychopaths who have no problem dropping their pants and shitting in the middle of a street. Give them a public restroom and they'll destroy it.

The people causing these problems aren't normal people who think like you and just happen to be homeless. You can't relate to them by trying to project yourself into their position. They're completely different mentally. They do not think rationally, and they do not have any empathy for others around them.

[Gigachad]

Your comment is downvoted but it's something that has to be considered. Yes people shit on the streets because there are no toilets, but there are no toilets because it's extremely difficult to provide them due to abuse. It all links back to drug abuse again.

[s1artibartfast]

I think part of it is a refusal to give them utilitarian toilets that can't be destroyed for aesthetic reasons.

e.g. toilets with no privacy and pressure washable steel

[Gigachad]

This would require some significant trial, design, study. My first question is are people who are willing to use a toilet publicly exposed actually likely to use it vs just some quiet street. And there are still plenty of ways to ruin a utilitarian toilet like shoving trash in and blocking the drain. At the very least most people can admit that the problem is more complex than simply dropping in some public toilet blocks.

You have to consider these things because there are more than enough people willing to destroy things simply for the purpose of destroying them.

[s1artibartfast]

I'm not saying it a complete solution, but do think it can alleviate some concerns.

>My first question is are people who are willing to use a toilet publicly exposed actually likely to use it vs just some quiet street.

I believe the person willing to take a shit on the sidewalk on busy street, would also be willing to do so in a metal receptacle with TP provided.

I think there are engineering solutions that might not make it unpluggable, but give it a pretty high up time.

You're right that it might take some trial design and study. But that is an argument for trying it!