[toast0]

> Systemd is neither unnecessary nor stupid.

I'm living a pretty good life without systemd, so it's clearly not necessary. I'm sort of willing to acknowledge that it fits some people's needs better than alternatives however.

systemd doesn't have the ability to cancel tasks from the console like other init systems do, for example when my laptop can't get a DHCP response from the network card that's not plugged in, so it's clearly stupid (and so is the init script or whatever it's called that's trying to get an answer from a not plugged in NIC, but that's a separate although related issue).

[Hendrikto]

> systemd doesn't have the ability to cancel tasks from the console

Yes, it does… not sure what you are talking about.

[toast0]

On other init systems, if you hit ^C it cancels the current task. On the one systemd machine that I used, ^C did nothing while waiting for DHCP, and no gettys had started yet either, so as far as I could tell, there was no way to get the system to respond other than wait for the timeout (minutes) or reboot and maybe reconfigure in single user mode.