[99_00]

It's great that this is being experimented with, and this doesn't look like a solution that is ready to be deployed at scale.

What is the carbon emissions per kwh, cost per kwh, etc. I'm not saying that the company building this needs to give those answers.

But if this is part of the solution for climate change, those things will need to be known and reasonable.

[bryanlarsen]

> What is the carbon emissions per kwh

The raw materials are lithium, potassium and iron. All are abundant but require significant energy to extract. So if we have a clean grid they can be produced with almost no carbon emissions. So if using "dirty" batteries is necessary to create the clean grid, it's still a massive win.

[99_00]

>if we have a clean grid they can be produced with almost no carbon emissions

Everything is possible. But not everything is practical.

Energy density matters. Especially in industrial applications.

For example, electric passenger vehicles are a great solution because the weight of passengers is negligible.

Electric semis hauling freight? Not so much. The payload has to be reduced by a significant amount because the battery is so damn big.

I don't know what the extraction process involves, but I've been to a few mines. Truck, the size of a house moving massive loads. And lots of big stationary machines, which I assume are already electric powdered.

[bryanlarsen]

> Everything is possible. But not everything is practical.

Which is why your question is so impractical. You're asking about kilotonnes of carbon on a project that will save megatonnes annually. If your question forces them to source batteries with a 10% smaller carbon footprint, you'll will likely have done net harm to the environment by delaying the project and forcing us to rely on dirty electrical sources for longer.

Your question is standard FUD technique. On the surface it appears to be a reasonable question. Because it is, at least in other contexts. But in the context of a green energy production plant, it's a distraction.

Yes, we need to make mines greener. So ask your question in the context of mines.

> Electric semis hauling freight? Not so much. The payload has to be reduced by a significant amount because the battery is so damn big.

More FUD. The batteries + motors weigh about one tonne more than the engines and diesel they displace. In response, Europe has increased weight limits for electric semis by 2 tonnes, and the US by 0.9 tons. Even if they didn't, a 1 tonne difference in a 35 tonne load is not especially significant.