[ergocoder]

Good luck finding a concrete evidence in a geopolitical issue between 2 global super powers.

Even if the government finds one, they won't say it out loud. Nobody would hold them accountable. You cannot just incite WW3.

It is suboptimal but probably the best that it can be.

Remember the Malaysian airline that was shot down? I remember.

[kipchak]

>Even if the government finds one, they won't say it out loud. Nobody would hold them accountable. You cannot just incite WW3.

Isn't this arguably what happened with the SuperMicro hack and the subsequent denials?

[freeflight]

Do you mean the story about tiny super spy chips, so advanced that not even the US could manufacture them, allegedly being planted on thousands of US server boards?

Remind me: How many of these chips were actually found and presented as evidence? Not a single one, yet to this day this story remains alive and repeated...

[freeflight]

> Even if the government finds one, they won't say it out loud. Nobody would hold them accountable. You cannot just incite WW3.

Did Snowden incite WW3 when he blew the whistle and delivered literally troves of evidence?

> It is suboptimal but probably the best that it can be.

That's just the same old "You just have to trust the government/intelligence services, they can't reveal their evidence/sources without endangering them!".

After decades of civilians getting droned and innocents getting tortured I think we should maybe have learned something from trusting such accusations from institutions who do not only have a history of lying, but literally a agenda to do so.

Particularly when timing wise most of these accusations fit very neatly into a pivot from the ME to Asia while also serving as a bit of "whataboutism" for the recent nasty reveals coming out of the Five Eyes camps in regards to human rights abuses and mass surveillance.

[curiousllama]

Is/ought. Person you’re responding to is not saying “we should trust org X”

They’re saying “org X wouldn’t tell us even if they found evidence”