[slightwinder]

> I don’t see why the shell must be both nice to program in and a concise textual interface.

Because people just want to have one consistent tooling for everything, and it should be effortless available everywhere. Especially portability is a huge problem.

[gbrown]

Good for them, but I have no trouble using different tools for different tasks. I find bash cumbersome to write complex programs in, so I just don’t.