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by vidarh 1697 days ago
Being "safe on the streets" is what this discussion was about. Drug use is irrelevant to what was being discussed, with user "ResearchCode" claiming that Barcelona is a place where people "are asked to practice war zone vigilance", something they've failed to back up with any kind of sources.

With respect to the drug use, I don't buy that measuring use is a valid proxy for measuring abuse or "disasters" - assuming all use is abuse is a severely puritan value judgement. I'd much rather be around an ecstasy or cannabis user than an alcohol user for example.
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pvaldes 1697 days ago
If being safe on the streets is what we are talking, sorry, but we definitely must have a small talk about drugs and cars.

Friends don't let their friends drive while high on ecstasy (specially when there are a lot of children riding pink bikes in the street).

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vidarh 1697 days ago
Again, if there are sources to suggest that the streets of Barcelona justifies calling it one of the "crime capitals of Europe", feel free to supply them rather than presenting unsupported hypotheses about how drug users behave there.
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pvaldes 1697 days ago
Nah, the streets are 100% safe and this is Arcadia. Forget it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CpeQMinhj1M

It feels pretty futuristic to me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8C8fLMoTqE

And Yeah, drug users are gentlemen and their bad image is undeserved.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3cimtfC9Ag

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vidarh 1696 days ago
London have had machete fights, and riots, and lots of drug dealers, yet I have in 21 years of living here never been in a dangerous situation. Neither parts of those sentence proves anything about the safety of London, just like your videos proves nothing. Anecdotes are not data. Try again.

I'll note I have no idea if Barcelona is safe or not. It's possible it's a crime-ridden shithole, but nobody in this thread have substantiated that claim with a source, despite the person who originally made the claim suggested it was easy to establish with a search - which turned out to not support their claim at all.

It's perfectly possible there are stats that shows that Barcelona is in fact as dangerous as they claimed. But supporting that claim requires actual sources, not random videos.

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