[throwawayfear]

Do you want to live in temperature-controlled rooms, monitored by the government to ensure that no transmissible diseases are around?

You may have a knee-jerk reaction to my question, thinking it has no basis in reality. Meanwhile, in Australia:

They're going to force people who quarantine at home (rather than a government-mandated quarantine "hotel" with guards) to install and use an app. Facial recognition, GPS tracking in your own home. And it will randomly ping you, and if you don't respond within 15 minutes it'll send the police to your house to conduct an in-person quarantine check. Source:

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2021/09/pandemic-a...

It's not far off from your premise that a totalitarian regime would make this control the norm in the name of "don't be a vector of transmissible diseases."

The government could deliver meals to you! And let you out for exercise once a day as long as you stay within a few miles of your box! Does this still sound delusional? Those are effectively the terms that have already been imposed on people in Australia over the last year. They can arbitrarily lock you in your apartment building for up to weeks, no one allowed to leave. Sources:

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-53316097

https://fortune.com/2020/11/19/south-australia-adelaide-lock...

"For six days, only one person from a household will be allowed to leave home each day, and only for essential reasons, authorities said. Schools, universities, cafes and restaurants are closed, weddings and funerals are banned and mask-wearing is mandatory.

“We want to go hard, go early, but get out of it as quickly as we can,” State Premier Steven Marshall said of the measures."

This is from last year by the way. They went hard but didn't get out of it at all judging by what's still the policy in Australia. And over the last year they still had their requirement about not leaving far from your box (oops I mean house) when exercising. Nobody could leave certain cities, even.

These examples are just scratching the surface of why it's naive to formulate your worldview based on a moral righteousness about "don't be a vector for disease." It's dangerous rhetoric even if it feels good in online posting to be "better" than others this way. Don't buy into the dishonest media narrative about "vaxxed vs unvaxxed."

[b0sk]

This is called slippery slope argument. George Washington ordered his troops to be vaccinated. It's been the case for centuries and pretty much why a lot of us are alive now.

[throwawayfear]

There is a mountain of links provided in recent comments I made, showing that it's happening in Australia and that some people are clamoring for a two-tier society. Victoria's premier is straight up saying he wants a "vaccinated economy" through 2023 - effectively banning anyone who doesn't partake, regardless of antibodies, from normal life.

That is not a slippery slope. That is reality staring you in the face. Vaccines are great. These mandates are idiotic for reasons I've thoroughly described and nobody has yet addressed the contentions on their own merit.

I don't care if George Washington in a time of war against the superpower of the time made a desperate gambit against smallpox infection in literal military conflict. None of that changes the reality of things - the vast majority of both countries have antibodies from one source or another. Those antibodies are known to be effective at preventing Delta, with breakthrough cases being rare.

Any mandates that are excluding someone from society or employment (outside of hospitals) are a mistake. We simply don't need them. We have already reached far beyond the 60-70 percent threshold Fauci and other public servants were saying would be required for herd immunity / endemic covid.

Your response is basically just justifying everything in Australia, the tyrannical overreach happening in other countries (including some would say in the USA with the recent Biden mandate on corporations). These things are NOT NECESSARY, on the very terms established by Fauci and co over the entire last year.

So explain in more detail how it's a slippery slope when (per all the links I've shared about Australia). Or explain to me why these public servants are ignoring reality and not making admissions about antibodies.

It's rather strange when someone can see all these links and their only real response is to try to justify it by calling out some rhetorical fallacy even though there wasn't one. What is this, high school debate class? I sourced my claims about what is literally happening down under, and it's not a slippery slope to understand history or to make noise when the alarm bells are going off.