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by scottLobster 1698 days ago
What's our (the US) motive at this point beyond institutional inertia? The US is in the process of getting out of the middle east, to the point where the Saudis are making weapons deals with the Russians and reaching out to Israel.

Short of hampering Iran's nuclear capability, there's not much motive left under Biden. As a country we're just slowly ceasing to care.
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bronco21016 1698 days ago
I think it would be foolish to assume that the US no longer cares about the Middle East just because the boots on the ground are moving out. The US conducts shadow operations across the globe to further their interests. Cyberattacks allow countries to continue to wield power without spending the physical resources that were required in the past.

I’m not sure there’s enough evidence in this case to implicate anyone, including the US, but I don’t think they can be ruled out simply on the argument you’ve presented.

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stayfrosty420 1698 days ago
(S)he isn't talking about the US.
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scottLobster 1698 days ago
So who then? Parent stated it as if it was obvious. The only remaining Iranian enemy I can see with a "world class highly sophisticated cyber warfare capability" is Israel, and I'm not sure what they accomplish strategically by breaking some Iranian gas stations.

All of Iran's other rivals in the middle east are lacking in said capabilities, and China and Russia tacitly support Iran.

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ramesh31 1698 days ago
> I'm not sure what they accomplish strategically by breaking some Iranian gas stations.

These are most likely just trial probing runs. Iranian gas stations use government networks for payments using a card issued to citizens for the subsidy. It's just a hop skip and a jump from there to critical military and other strategic infrastructure.

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scottLobster 1698 days ago
Seems rather poor strategy to tip your hand in such a big way for a probing run. With a crisis this large the Iranian authorities HAVE to respond, and could possibly plug whatever holes are being exploited.

Stuxnet worked because it was subtle. This doesn't fit that pattern at all. Granted it could be a probing-run gone wrong.

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yyyk 1698 days ago
Two weeks ago an Israeli hospital was hit by ransomware:

https://www.jpost.com/breaking-news/hillel-yaffe-hospital-ta...

Assuming a particular attribution, it wouldn't be fantasy to assume this is payback. Or it could be anything else. For all we know, the regime has a fuel shortage and wants to cover it up with a 'cyber attack'.

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tyingq 1698 days ago
I don't think they were hinting it was the US.
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