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by coldtea 1696 days ago
Yes, seriously.

"Quis custodiet ipsos custodes" is a very legitimate and serious question.

Not to mention, it doesn't matter if they actually "do" keep it secure, themselves, as a company, would still have access to all this information.
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masswerk 1696 days ago
The problem with this article is that is poorly researched. Most of the services listed are running locally and storage is also local. (Things might change with automatic remote backups, but this is not what's addressed in the article.)

E.g., the Vision frameworks subjects any images to a local (built-in) neural network and returns the scanned text, which is then most probably put into the system clipboard. How is this surveillance, but copy-and-paste in MS Word was not?

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coldtea 1696 days ago
>The problem with this article is that is poorly researched. Most of the services listed are running locally and storage is also local.

It's also part of the backup to iCloud, which is not encrypted, no?

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masswerk 1696 days ago
> "iCloud secures your information by encrypting it when it's in transit and storing it in iCloud in an encrypted format. Many Apple services use end-to-end encryption, which means that only you can access your information, and only on trusted devices where you’re signed in with your Apple ID."

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT202303

Edit: Mind that this would still apply much the same to copy-and-paste in MS Word and any (encrypted) remote backups of the resulting documents. Where is the significant difference? Also mind that iCloud backups are not mandatory, but yet another (optional) service.

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e44858 1696 days ago
> Many Apple services use end-to-end encryption

Not all. Notably not iCloud backups. They're encrypted but Apple has the key.

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tommit 1696 days ago
In case anyone else didn't take latin in school, it translates to "Who watches the watchers".

Not sure if this is common knowledge (I highly doubt it). While legitimate, the English saying would have done just as well IMO.

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coldtea 1696 days ago
>In case anyone else didn't take latin in school

...note that they can pick them up on their own at any age...

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tommit 1695 days ago
I understand, but the majority of people don't.

I applaud you for speaking/knowing a few sayings in latin, though.

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