[dangus]

Apple is expensive, they don't know what they're doing, it's not really Pro, etc, etc, etc. These unique and new complaints about Apple must keep their executives up at night as they execute mistake after mistake, only becoming the most valuable company in the world through continual Acts of God.

Show me another laptop that does all these things:

1. Benchmarks >12000 in Cinebench R23 (i.e., very solid CPU performance)

2. GPU benchmarks at or above an RTX 3060 laptop

3. Over 10 hours battery life for typical light web browsing tasks

4. Under 40dB of noise at full fan speed

5. No loss of benchmarking performance after 30 minutes of load (i.e., no thermal throttling)

(Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhqCC70ZfDM)

They don't exist. Apple is selling a literal unicorn and you're complaining that the unicorn should come with glitter.

[cudgy]

They are impressive machines, but you can’t run Windows on it … yet, which is a big deal for many. Very few games are optimized for it, which is a primary use case for most average users to require horsepower like this.

Hopefully, these drawbacks will change if enough people buy these M1 machines, but there is no guarantee.

[dangus]

> which is a primary use case for most average users to require horsepower like this

I think this is a big misunderstanding of Apple's customer base for these systems.

These GPUs are optimized for rendering tasks, not for FPS count for gaming.

> Very few games are optimized for it...Hopefully, these drawbacks will change if enough people buy these M1 machines, but there is no guarantee.

There is a guarantee, and that guarantee is hardware-level compatibility with iOS and iPad platforms.

There's a whole section of the Mac App Store called "Great iPhone and iPad Games for Mac with M1"

iOS and iPad probably represent a larger gaming installed base and revenue than PC and consoles combined.

Opinions may vary, but personally I think that being able to run Windows on your Mac is far, far down on the list on reasons to purchase a Mac. It was a very handy tool to have especially 15 years ago when the Mac didn't have as much commercial support, but in 2021 I don't think a lot of potential Mac customers really care about Windows compatibility.

[cudgy]

“These GPUs are optimized for rendering tasks, not for FPS count for gaming.”

A small market indeed. Very few people need this powerful of a computer. Most people browse the internet, use a word processor, and some play demanding video games. Video games is the only category that remotely approaches the need for these powerful machines by John Q Public.

[greenwoman]

At that weight and price it's competing with desktops. They're cheating. That thing is as portable as stone henge.

[ghaff]

3.5 pounds is "as portable as stone henge"? If you prioritize lightness you can maybe shave about a pound off that--and for travel I sort of wish Apple would still make a sub-13" model. But that's squarely in the weight range of laptops in general.

It is expensive. I give you that. And for many people it's probably overkill.

[dangus]

Sure, okay, then find me a competitor that does all the things I listed that this machine can do in an equivalent or smaller size.

I presented sourced evidence showing why I think this computer is in a class of its own, so I'd be really excited to be proven wrong.

[Axsuul]

This person is obviously trolling