[y7]

I think that for a lot of professionals, dropping the touch bar, including HDMI, more graphics processing power (which is especially useful for those in the graphics/video industry), and more battery life, at the cost of a higher weight and price, provide the right trade-offs.

[greenwoman]

So it's a graphics editing workstation for the laymen with too much money. And that's fine. But it's not a developer system.

[comeonseriously]

> But it's not a developer system.

I think Apple's idea of a "pro" is not necessarily someone who spends time inside of a text editor all day.

[slantyyz]

> I think Apple's idea of a "pro" is not necessarily someone who spends time inside of a text editor all day.

I think Apple's notion of "pro" includes people who spend time in front of a text editor all day. It just doesn't include ALL people who spend time in front of a text editor all day.

Developer is a very broad term. I am no Apple fan, but I would be lying if these new Macs aren't more than satisfactory for a large number of developers. Maybe not for developers who have specific or advanced needs, but I think plenty of developers would be super happy with these new Macs.

[drcongo]

I'm a developer and these laptops are exactly what I was hoping they were going to release. Perfect in every way.

[matwood]

> But it's not a developer system.

Define developer system. I've exclusively used Macs for development for over a decade.