[collegeburner]

Do you have a problem with those terms? If it makes you feel better "stopping power" is at least half a meme these days, from all the old fudds talking about "muh stopping power" with their .45 1911s. And yeah a bullet makes a wound channel? This stuff is just as relevant of you're hunting or similar.

And no, birdshot may not stop a big person. Hurt like hell but often won't kill. I personally don't have a shotgun for home defense though, 9mm hollow points in a PCC do the job fine.

Anybody who's not an idiot wears ear protection when shooting but a few shots won't damage your ears much. But yeah a 9mm handgun is significantly less bad for these reasons. Thank the feds though, it's damn hard to get suppressors without tons of paperwork which would otherwise make this less of a problem.

[rsyring]

> But yeah a 9mm handgun is significantly less bad for these reasons.

9mm handgun is usually louder than a shotgun: https://earinc.com/gunfire-noise-level-reference-chart/

> Thank the feds though, it's damn hard to get suppressors without tons of paperwork which would otherwise make this less of a problem.

Paperwork isn't that bad and online retailers help a lot. It's annoying, expensive, and you have to wait a long time after purchase to get it, but it's not really "hard" IMO.

[collegeburner]

Huh never seemed like that, go figure. Tbh i usually shoot 9mm from a PCC so that may have skewed my impression.

I consider a shitload of paperwork, months of waiting, and the $200 tax stamp to be pretty bad. More importantly, navigating that paperwork is hard for somebody kinda new to guns, even though it's better these days esp. with the internet.

[nataz]

And just a quick safety note, a 9mm round can absolutely cause long term hearing damage with just one shot, especially if fired indoors and unsurprised. Lots of variables in play here, but the answer is to always wear hearing protection.