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by c0llision 1694 days ago
Lmao, so people wanting children to be able to cycle safely to school is communism?

>The risk of biking injuries is always present

Lol. Because nobody was ever injured in a car before. What do you think are the major source of cycling injuries? It's collisions with motor vehicles. You fall off your bike and you'll probably scrape a knee. You get hit by a truck and it's near certain death. Cycling is NOT a dangerous activity, it is a benign activity done in a dangerous environment. Obvious example of Netherlands, where biking is number 1 method of transport, and nobody wears a helmet, yet they have one of the lowest rates of injury, thanks to the fact they have great cycling infrastructure which separates vulnerable road users from vehicles.

>Cars are not the enemy

Maybe some people think they are, but of course that is not the case. But that does not mean that cars must be used for every trip that we do. We can recognize that certain means of transport are better suited to certain journeys. If you are traveling very long distances then it makes sense to fly or take a boat. Likewise if you are traveling short distances it makes sense to walk or cycle. What people want is the freedom to choose their own means of transport. They want to be able to choose if they want to walk, cycle, take public transport or drive and they want to use whatever method is most convenient for them for whatever journey they are doing. They do not want the government to invest all transport funds solely into roads for cars and design cities around cars making their use essentially mandatory. I'm sure the car lobby is happy that many countries decided to do this in the 70's and that the decision to do that had nothing to do with influence from them, but now people are starting to see that the government has essentially made cars mandatory and their freedom has been taken from them. Of course cars are not the enemy and they are never going to go away, there will always be journeys where cars makes the most sense from a cost, convenience and time perspective, and there will always be people who just like driving.

>Porsche's synthetic fuel will reduce CO2 from cars dramatically

People often focus on the cO2 emissions from cars when driving, but that is actually not the worst part. In fact, it is actually much better to keep driving your old petrol car for as long as possible instead of switching to a brand new electric/low emissions car, because there are significant cO2 emissions released from building a new car. Then there is the cO2 emissions from building roads. Building just 2 meters of road has the same emissions as building a brand new car.

>Claus Schwab

Not surprised to hear you mention this name, or Santa Claus as I like to call him. The new favorite go-to for conspiracy nuts nowadays.

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>Claus Schwab Not surprised to hear you mention this name, or Santa Claus as I like to call him. The new favorite go-to for conspiracy nuts nowadays.

Wow. Did you, just call me a "conspiracy nut"?:)

Are you seriously thinking that this stance will remove the logic and facts from my argument?

There is no Santa Claus, but WEF agenda and "collaboration" with governments and billionaires is real.

And it is not for your "common good".

It is marketed that way, for sure.

Lol, what facts and logic? Your original comment contains none of these, just your own personal assertions.

literally listen to yourself, this article was originally about children cycling to school, now you are connecting this to the WEF conspiracy.

And yes it is a conspiracy, it's the same as all others where people make these vague and imprecise statements, like you did in your original comment, then take some actual facts and try to weave it all together into something malicious. Actually, this is literally what you are doing right now by taking this story literally about children cycling and weaving it into the whole WEF conspiracy.

> And yes it is a conspiracy, it's the same as all others where people make these vague and imprecise statements, like you did in your original comment, then take some actual facts and try to weave it all together into something malicious. Actually, this is literally what you are doing right now by taking this story literally about children cycling and weaving it into the whole WEF conspiracy.

Seriously? Did you not read at all. I see this as a non-solution of the real problem. I see this as opportunity to be used as a cover story for public consent towards "hate cars" and "love bikes". I see this as creating a narrative which will serve well WEF agendas. And I know for a fact how media works and who is the real beneficiary. Al this are facts, all of my view-point about WEF is well embraced even from leftist people with common sense. The legitimate concerns are turned to conspiracy theory in a whim. This is the real danger.

As I mentioned this is very "useful" story, already running as an "example": https://www.npr.org/2021/10/22/1047341052/barcelona-bicibus-...

And here you can read about "the conspiracy" angle. https://theintercept.com/2020/12/08/great-reset-conspiracy/

Note: I don't agree with Klein's view on dangers of communism. She is on the spot for the logic behind - halfway solutions for a systemic crisis far beyond WEF agenda. And yes, I have a bias. I have lived in communistic regime and have suffered over "refusing the party line and established common good practices".

That is the root cause of my reaction. I see people trying to convince themselves that this "biking" thing is a solution of a problem. In actuality this creates one. Blocking traffic in a city creates traffic congestions in other spots.