[sleepysysadmin]

>I don't see what communism has to do with everyone needing to be employed full time. That's just what they made of it in the USSR etc.

Like your definition says:

and each person contributes and receives according to their ability and needs.

That equates to everyone working. There's very few exceptions, usually like you lack arms and legs or something extreme to allow you not to work.

Afterall, how do you stop 'You work, I'll be at home collecting UBI and watching TV.'

[t-3]

> Afterall, how do you stop 'You work, I'll be at home collecting UBI and watching TV.'

Well, if there's no money (because it's not necessary), there wouldn't be a UBI anyway? Communism is supposed to come after socialism and before anarchy, in theory. First you build an egalitarian society with a mindset of peaceful cooperation, then you get them to all work together for the greater good, and finally you dissolve the 'taskmaster' of the state, as society is perfect and no longer needs it.

[sleepysysadmin]

>Well, if there's no money (because it's not necessary), there wouldn't be a UBI anyway? Communism is supposed to come after socialism and before anarchy, in theory. First you build an egalitarian society with a mindset of peaceful cooperation, then you get them to all work together for the greater good, and finally you dissolve the 'taskmaster' of the state, as society is perfect and no longer needs it.

Lets put capitalism vs communism aside.

I imagine a world where we have fully automated producing essential things. Why can't we have a factory farm fully automated using entirely robots producing food at cost. The same can be done for widgets. Robot arms can just do everything entirely. Someone just has to build this; I've been to one of those greenhouses. It picked thousands of pounds of tomatoes, delivered them to packaging, packaged, and shipped every day with only 3 people. The 3 people are for 2 functions. Q/A making sure its not picking rotten stuff and making sure the trucker doesnt do anything.

We can get to the point that the payment for your groceries is watching advertisements or whatever. Simply because the cost of those goods are that small.

If I could be assured my family was fed and such. Maybe I'd quit my job and entrepreneur and do something else. That's the appeal of communism. The idea that innovation and such takes off. The reality is that under communism you have societal collapse. Cuba hasn't built anything in forever. They have no factories, nobody would work in them. They also dont automate, their population has been stagnant and thermodynamics is wrecking their country. In order to have that upward push in communism, you need slaves. Gulags get shit done.