[tuatoru]

I can't speak to "Jewish", but I can to "Japanese".

It relates to Japan's industrial rise after WWII.

In the 1950s, "Japanese" was synonymous with "shoddy and cheap". The stereotypical import from Japan was an HB pencil.

In the 1980s, "Japanese" became synonymous with "cheap and reliable" -- think Toyota vs General Motors. American manufacturers responded with racism rather than fixing their problems.

There was hysteria in the mainstream media that Japan was going to overtake the US to become the biggest economy in the world. People who see the world in zero-sum terms made idiots of themselves.*

In the 2010s, "Japanese" seems to have become synonymous with "advanced and very high quality". "Japanese capacitors" on computer motherboards, for instance.

And now that the Chinese are here, we've always been best buddies with Japan.

To some extent this same sequence is happening with South Korea and Taiwan, and possibly Israel.

* There's a famous essay, "The Paranoid Style in American Politics" which goes some way to describing this zero-sum, win-or-lose thinking in politicians. The first few paragraphs read like they could have been written this year.

https://harpers.org/archive/1964/11/the-paranoid-style-in-am...

[bsder]

> There was hysteria in the mainstream media that Japan was going to overtake the US to become the biggest economy in the world. People who see the world in zero-sum terms made idiots of themselves.*

To be fair, the Japanese, through MITI subsidies, slaughtered the US semiconductor industry through the early 80s.

It took a lot of US government funding through VHSIC and the VLSI Project to prevent semiconductors from collapsing completely.

People too often assume that "things will work out" after the fact when sometimes it took great efforts up front to make it that way.

Of course, I'm originally from the Rust Belt of the US, so I have a front row seat to "Yeah, things don't always work out."

[CamperBob2]

It took a lot of US government funding through VHSIC and the VLSI Project to prevent semiconductors from collapsing completely.

What are some specific examples? I don't remember anything like that happening. Japan had Hitachi and Matsushita and Toshiba, but we had Motorola and Intel and NatSemi and TI and countless other dominant players. There was plenty of room in the market for both.

[bsder]

Please remember that the only thing which had any real volume in that time (1985 and prior) period was dynamic RAM. DRAM drove semiconductor process development until microprocessors eventually took over as defining the process capabilities (about 1990-ish).

The US DRAM manufacturers got absolutely destroyed by the Japanese ones. So much so that getting out of DRAM was an existential crisis moment for Intel.

One big point of the crux was scan lithography vs step and repeat lithography. You needed step and repeat lithography to get to the next level, but it was way more complicated than scan lithography. The US companies made the jump--the Japanese ones didn't. The Japanese companies clobbered the US companies in terms of profitability and production.

This is part of the origin of "never be first" in the semiconductor industry.

The US government then stepped in and pumped a massive amount of money behind semiconductor tech to stabilize that. Of course, once step and repeat (and some other related technologies) went online, the Japanese DRAM companies now got slaughtered and basically driven out of business.

Things don't always "just work out" and sometimes the game really does create "winners and losers".

[simondotau]

This change in attitudes was dramatised in 1985's Back To The Future.

  Doc Brown (from 1955)

        (Inspects the failed circuit)
    "Unbelievable that this little piece
    of junk could be such a big problem."
              (Turns it over)
    "No wonder this circuit failed, it
    says made in Japan."

  Marty (from 1985)

    "What do you mean doc, all the best
    stuff is made in Japan."

  Doc Brown

    "Unbelievable."