[Kim_Bruning]

Right. It's not just car dependency, and ... it's Not Just Bikes either.

It's almost a tautology to say that if you want to have a particular kind of nice neighborhood you'll have to include those uses in your planning.

I think that most people want to be able to get from A to B in comfort, and are not necessarily married to one particular mode of transport.

If the only way to get anywhere is by car, then of course people want to transport themselves by car. If you offer other competitive options, people will sometimes take those options instead.

[frankus]

It’s worth remembering that for a lot of “A to B” trips the change in location is kind of incidental to the actual goal of shopping, socializing, dining out, etc. In other words you if locate a lot of “B”s close to your “A” (or vice versa) people will tend to be satisfied with slower modes like walking and biking (that also reduce the energy needed by a couple of orders of magnitude).