[craftoman]

What's wrong with Electron? Etcher is a tool with 5 minutes maximum running time, it's not Slack where you have to run on background for hours. Also size is irrelevant these days, you can download a 150 mb file in 2 seconds.

[KMnO4]

> Also size is irrelevant these days, you can download a 150 mb file in 2 seconds.

Definitely not the case for the majority of the world. Sure, it’s probably true for most HN readers, but many countries still rely on 3G infrastructure — or worse: satellite.

I remember spending over a week downloading Ubuntu 18, which also consumed ~10% of my monthly data cap for that single ISO. And before you make any assumptions, this was rural Ontario, Canada in 2019.

[WA9ACE]

Yes, it's incredibly frustrating to hear people assume everyone has high speed home connections. I operate entirely off cellular. 150 MB is not chump change and it certainly does not download in 2 seconds. If it's not a problem that affects the developer shipping the software it's not a problem that gets noticed or cared about, unless it ends up on a PM's radar or sentry.

[fouric]

Every time you hear someone making false assumptions about internet connections, don't forget to mention Dan Luu's excellent page on this! https://danluu.com/web-bloat/

[WA9ACE]

Thank you for linking me to this this, it's a wonderful write up that I had not seen before!

[trillic]

Maybe you and I have near gigabit connections, but not everybody has constant access to high-speed non-metered internet

[fouric]

> size is irrelevant these days

Objectively false - this matters for people with limited cellular data, in countries like Africa, on crowded wifi/cellular/satellite connections, with limited storage, and many other cases[1].

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28907045

[tentacleuno]

> Also size is irrelevant these days, you can download a 150 mb file in 2 seconds.

Where I live the average internet speed is around 30Mbps (even going as low as 15/10 in some cases) so that definitely isn't true, sadly.