[throwaway59553]

>To think that the wisdom of white male slave owners is somewhat unquestionable is so deeply flawed i can’t assume good intentions.

I don't know where you from, but maybe the USA (or any other Western country), is just not for you. Maybe you'd appreciate more the opposite end, something like Haiti, the product of the slaves who killed those evil white males you despise so much.

[mellavora]

Sigh.

I think you are trying to argue the same point as I am, so I should be more supportive.

Hati was not the best choice for a comparison. It wasn't the slave revolt which turned Hati into a hell country. It was the French insisting that the now free slaves had to "repay" for what they had "stolen" (and for the French losses when they tried to invade and re-take the country); the massive debt burden imposed by the French and supported by the other world powers crippled the country's economy for well over 100 years.

[throwaway59553]

That sound like really good excuses if multiple countries haven't also been destroyed by wars, had to pay billions in debt or any other things, and managed to reach a much more developed state. Yet the usual suspects can't reach the developed status, even with lots of foreign aid.

You don't even need to go that far. Compare Haiti to Dominican Republic.

But as someone once said "Demographics are Destiny".