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by panick21_ 1701 days ago
I really love the company and use Pop OS. The only thing I would really love for them to do is focus on ZFS out of box experience.

Having the default encryption go Native ZFS encryption would be really great.
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Bayart 1701 days ago
Excuse me for asking, but why would you use ZFS on a laptop/desktop ? That's the target for PopOS.
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panick21_ 1701 days ago
There is this myth out there that ZFS is not for desktop/laptop. I have no idea why this is. There is no reason for that thinking. The developers of ZFS were using ZFS on desktop literally before it was finished, it was always intend to do both desktop and servers.

Its just that Solaris and FreeBSD systems were primary servers. If ZFS is the best file system, why not just use it?

I would really like to use native encrypted ZFS and then to encrypted backups with 'zfs send'. I would like good check sums, snapshots and all the features of ZFS.

Its simply overall the best system, I don't think there is really series competition. And the FS is one of the single most important parts of a OS. ZFS could be a major reason why people move to PopOS.

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Bayart 1700 days ago
What myth ? ZFS is significantly slower than run-off-the-mill file systems (namely ext4) on small file random r/w IOPS. Which makes sense because it's made for throughput and redundancy, not latency.

It's a pretty shit file system for a single OS or a software development drive, unless you really need snapshots (you don't).

ZFS is made for big arrays of drives with lots of RAM. If that's not your use case, you're just wasting time and energy for the sake of it.

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vermaden 1700 days ago
Yeah. ZFS is great for single disks for laptops.

With ZFS Boot Environments you are bulletproof on upgrades and major changes.

Moar here: https://is.gd/BECTL

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solarkraft 1701 days ago
ZFS has a reputation as being rock-solid and having a ton of features. Both XFS and BTRFS replicate parts of it, but never really the whole thing.

... but I don’t think it should be the focus of a consumer focused distro since that’s quite an advanced functionality.

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panick21_ 1701 days ago
Why not just use the best system, the features being advanced doesn't have to be a problem. The people that build the distro set this up, the users shouldn't really know or care.

But ontop of ZFS distors can build great stuff. Ubuntu is moving in that directin as well, but I don't like some of their choices.

Still one of the reasons to use Ubuntu over PopOS is the ZFS support.

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