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by NewJazz 1705 days ago
I've been running Upstart (well, a fork I maintain) for over 2 years on my laptops and SBC. I'd like to use that. TBH I think NixOS might make it easier than other distros to run a custom init. I just haven't gotten around to importing my configs into a nix derivation.
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md8z 1705 days ago
If you have a parser for systemd unit files then you might have a chance to get that to work.

If the whole reason you're doing it is to migrate back to upstart's syntax then it seems that would be not so useful, you might as well go in the other direction: write an upstart generator for systemd, and then you can just plug that into ordinary NixOS.

Edit: Actually I think at some point NixOS did support upstart? Not sure whatever happened to that.

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NewJazz 1705 days ago
I'm not planning on working on anything related to systemd in the near future. If anything, I will write a config generator/type spec for startup/Upstart in Nix.
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md8z 1705 days ago
Unfortunately I think you probably will have to work on it if you want to not break existing configurations, so maybe NixOS is not for you. You could try alpine possibly? But with that you will have to do the same with init.d, so it's going to be somewhat of an uphill battle either way I guess. This is generally why I would discourage maintaining a service manager outside of an established distro, I tried to do it for about the same amount of time as you and it became not worth it. Upstart in particular has been basically entirely replaced by systemd.
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NewJazz 1705 days ago
I already use upstart on void no problem. Alpine would be a similar deal with me just managing the configs as raw text files via rsync. In fact my fork is already packaged in Alpine. A few people use it as a session manager for sway.

There is no chance that my Nix changes would affect existing configurations. They would be completely self contained.

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md8z 1705 days ago
I mean if you want to run existing configurations on your setup. Those aren't going to work. You can just install Nix on void though.

I had some users too but it still wasn't really worth it. I can't suggest it as a business model or a hobby project, you are basically going to be highly constrained by everything else on the system and your setup will just start looking like everything else eventually. Systemd also works fine as a session manager for whatever.

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