[staysafeanon]

>I cited a source indicating college students have the right to register to vote where their school is located.

That's not what that says. Students can proclaim residency in the state they are attending school, yes. That also means in Texas you have 30 days to register your car, 90 days to change over to a Texas driver's license, etc.

>Neither a school ID nor a drivers’ license says anything about citizenship. They’re the same in that regard.

We're not talking about citizenship, we're talking about residency. A student ID does not prove state residency, so it does not past muster whatsoever. Texas has legal explanation covering this specific scenario: https://www.sos.state.tx.us/elections/elo/gsc1.pdf

I'll state it again: a student ID does not prove residency.

[ceejayoz]

A student ID proves identity.

The comment upthread I initially replied to stated student IDs aren't appropriate because they don't demonstrate citizenship; I pointed out neither does a drivers' license.

The appropriate time to look at residency/citizenship is at the voter registration step. This is already done!

[staysafeanon]

>A student ID proves identity.

Except student IDs don't even do that. They prove your student status, not state resident identity. That's why you can't use student IDs to buy alcohol, board a plane, or purchase a firearm. Voting and buying guns are both constitutionally guaranteed rights. Are you OK with people buying guns with student IDs? If you are, at least you're being consistent.

Many student IDs are not even issued by the states (private schools). Also, there are hundreds of schools per state, being a student at Piney Woods Community College isn't easily verifiable if it's even in the state.

>The comment upthread I initially replied to stated student IDs aren't appropriate because they don't demonstrate citizenship

Nor do they demonstrate residency, nor are they valid for a number of other rights and privileges so it holds that they're not accepted.

>I pointed out neither does a drivers' license.

Which is true, but not what I stated above.

>The appropriate time to look at residency/citizenship is at the voter registration step. This is already done!

Some states have same day registration so it is not already done. Nonetheless, a student ID is a poor ID for exercising a person's right to vote.

[ModernMech]

All of the objections you raise could have been remedied in the recently-enacted legislation across the country. All they had to do was require state-funded schools to put the same info found on a DL or CCL on their student ids. The school in most cases already knows this information because they need it to verify the tuition rate for which a student qualifies. But GOP-run state legislatures didn’t do this and the reason why seems obvious given the public intonations coming from these individuals.

[staysafeanon]

>All of the objections you raise could have been remedied in the recently-enacted legislation across the country. All they had to do was require state-funded schools to put the same info found on a DL or CCL on their student ids.

I can hear leftists screeching from here over this proposal. That's exactly what Republicans want... Now student IDs can't be issued to illegal immigrants, need the same verifications required for DLs, which is White supremacy or something.

> school in most cases already knows this information because they need it to verify the tuition rate for which a student qualifies.

Which is hilariously inaccurate. I knew many students who feigned residency to save themselves tens of thousands.

>But GOP-run state legislatures didn’t do this and the reason why seems obvious given the public intonations coming from these individuals.

Because it was shot down by Democrats. Republicans just want to bring the US to the 21st century and match what the rest of the first-world countries are doing. Anything else is regressive.

Nonetheless, as far as Texas is concerned, students can get a free voter ID that qualifies, so the student ID point is moot.

[ModernMech]

> I can hear leftists screeching from here over this proposal.

I am a leftist. I see nothing wrong with this proposal (I mean, I proposed it, right?). Illegal immigrants going to CC wishing to pay resident rates will have to prove their residency just like everyone else, as is the current situation. I don't see an issue with that. Do you? It seems to me maybe you have a caricature of leftists in your mind if you think this proposal would have leftists screeching.

> I knew many students who feigned residency to save themselves tens of thousands.

Which is fraud and can be detected and caught easily. If legislatures wanted to fortify the requirements to make them more uniform across counties they could have. They didn't. And it's telling.

> Because it was shot down by Democrats.

Shot down? The bills that were passed were written and supported by Republican legislatures and signed into law by Republican governors. Democrats didn't have a say over anything. Republicans could have passed anything they wanted and Democrats were and are powerless to "shoot" anything down. Not sure how it's cogent to bring up minority opposition here.

> Nonetheless, as far as Texas is concerned, students can get a free voter ID that qualifies, so the student ID point is moot.

You mean free as long as their time is worthless, right? Because they already have an ID that should qualify, but doesn't because of "reasons". Where those reasons are vague and unsupported by fact and evidence. After all, we have no evidence so far to support the idea that students are committing widespread voter fraud. Republicans can't seem prove such a thing is happening despite decades of searching for it (gee, maybe because it's not happening).

[0xebc]

>I am a leftist.

We know.

>I see nothing wrong with this proposal (I mean, I proposed it, right?).

No problem with denying illegal immigrants student IDs because they have to be at the same standards required for other voting IDs? Awesome, glad we agree.

>Illegal immigrants going to CC wishing to pay resident rates will have to prove their residency just like everyone else, as is the current situation.

Correct, except now they'll have to prove lawful presence, and residency if they are to be the same standard as other voter IDs. They can't prove lawful presence because they immigrated illegally, so my point stands.

>I don't see an issue with that. Do you?

Not at all! Tax money for citizens and legal immigrants should absolutely not go to illegal immigrants. No issues here, glad we agree.

>Which is fraud and can be detected and caught easily.

Apparently not. There are hundreds of thousands of illegal immigrants defrauding the government by using other's social security numbers, etc. and it's been tough to stop it.

>If legislatures wanted to fortify the requirements to make them more uniform across counties they could have. They didn't. And it's telling.

They did... What are you talking about? This is a state standard that is the same across all counties. It's telling that you have absolutely no clue here.

>Shot down?

Yes, national IDs, voter ID laws are continuously shot down by Democrats, or are tampered in committees etc.

>You mean free as long as their time is worthless, right?

Just like voting, buying a gun, etc. It's not 100% free in time to exercise your rights.

>Because they already have an ID that should qualify,

Except they don't, as I have laid out above. Student IDs are not valid practically anywhere for identification such as airplanes, bars, buying alcohol, purchasing firearms, etc.

>but doesn't because of "reasons"

Yes, "reasons", also known as "uncomfortable facts that go against the narrative."

>Where those reasons are vague and unsupported by fact and evidence.

Those reasons are well defined and support by facts, logic, and evidence.

>After all, we have no evidence so far to support the idea that students are committing widespread voter fraud.

Thankfully because they're not allowed to use their student IDs, glad we're treating them like normal citizens.

>Republicans can't seem prove such a thing is happening despite decades of searching for it (gee, maybe because it's not happening).

Cool, same how there haven't been illegal weapons purchases with student IDs because they're not allowed for that either. Glad the Republicans are being consistent.