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by nottaylorswift 1704 days ago
Apple's daisy recycling robot is a taste of what's coming. Personally I wouldn't use a product that has been in an independent repair shop, having worked in several as a side gig while I was in college. They hardly ever use ESD precautions, often deceive and overcharge, may steal data, and are rarely qualified or trained, unless iFixit YouTube videos count. This is doubly the case if it's an Apple product. I will simply value my time properly and replace with a new model. I want to be using and not disassembling the product. Even the Apple geniuses aren't qualified IMO. After it leaves Shenzhen, it's a disposable product, as designed.

And so it comes back to money. Now these very advanced tools are primarily used for building wealth. If you're making money, replace out of date equipment as routine as an expense. If you aren't making enough to replace your equipment when necessary, the problem isn't the design of the laptop. It's your failing to earn. That's where the rational and successful will focus. Disassembling your laptop and it's 300 tiny security screws all over your desk on an ESD mat with little magnetic boxes to save $50 is totally insane. It's a waste of your valuable finite time and energy.

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I'm familiar with Daisy, however that's for recycling iPhones. Not repairing laptops. It's totally different.

Your claims about independent repair shops may apply to franchises like ubreaxifix, with bottom of the barrel pay to their technicians, but there are also many high quality independent repair shops like iPad Rehab and Rossmann Repair (both who have youtube channels outlining their repairs.) Who are very good at what they do. Also, some of their technicians are readers of HN.

> these very advanced tools are primarily used for building wealth > If you aren't making enough to replace your equipment when necessary, the problem isn't the design of the laptop. It's your failing to earn

By that logic, the target market for Apple laptops are for business use only (Apple's marketing says otherwise.) It's a set of product lines that are marketed towards college students, business elites, and casual users alike. Not all of those groups of people use their laptop for immediate wealth generation, or can afford expensive apple repairs. Which of these demographics do you think is a bigger market? By your logic, Framework has a very compelling product aimed at a large target market.

> ...to save $50 is totally insane. It's a waste of your valuable finite time and energy

Try adding a zero to the savings. Seriously, Apple repairs are expensive. and even more so if you're purchasing a new laptop like you claim to. Besides, if you actually believe all that you're saying about valuable time and energy, what takes more time and energy? Purchasing a new macbook, restoring your cloud backups, and all your applications, as well as checking that everything was properly restored, or spending a few minutes replacing a defective part in a modular, user serviceable laptop? If your argument is time savings here, its significantly faster to upgrade/replace parts than it is for me to upgrade/replace devices.