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by thedorkknight 1715 days ago
What am I supposed to be critical of, beyond what the authors themselves are saying? Judging by your quote, are you critical of the notion that vaccines slow the spread of covid - great, but I haven't heard that as a main talking point.

"Vaccines don't slow the spread, therefore..." what, exactly? What I've consistently heard since the vaccination campaigns started was that they reduce your chance of severe illness, hospitalization, and post-covid syndrome. Which is still absolutely true, in spite of the fact that (as the authors note) this effect has waned with the Delta wave. So, so what?

I've been listening to the "this week in Virology" podcast, along with Dr. John Campbell on YouTube, since Feb 2020. The difference between what I hear from the actual professionals and what I'm told by people online who use phrases like "Neoliberal agenda" that the professionals say is striking to the point that I wonder if those people are even bothering to listen to science communicators before making straw-man fallacies.

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It becomes even more apparent when you live in a small society.

Covid numbers presented in US for example are based on an endless set of definitions and interpretations. Dr a in state b may not use the same parameters as Dr c in state d to define a covid death or vaccine damage.

In a minuscule society full of obese people with a high percentege of a frail elderly population, such as Iceland, feel the actual result no matter what nature.com or timesofisrael state.

Our high vaccination rate drove down hospitalizations from 5% of the infected to about 2% ehich is where we are as of today.

We have an extremely obese population in Iceland I might add. This is crucial for covid-19 development.

Apologies for using an icelandic website, it is an article from today citing the state epidemiologist in Iceland

https://www.visir.is/g/20212169078d/skipti-gridarlegu-mali-a...

“Tilfelli á hverjum degi séu enn 20-60 og af þeim leggist tvö prósent inn á spítala.“.

translation 20-60 cases per day. 2% of them are hospitalized.

Our immunization rate is 88% of all age 12 and up.

https://www.covid.is/tolulegar-upplysingar-boluefni.