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by sixstringtheory 1714 days ago
> plenty of flamebait on HN - especially "cultural" flamebait. Some of which the moderators actively participate in

could you provide a link to an example?

> people don't like to think

solipsistic flamebait, and a universal negative you can’t possibly prove.

I leave showdead on while browsing hn and can tell you that the vast, vast majority of killed comments i’ve read are absolutely vulgar, or at best wildly off topic and really not worth the time it would take each individual to evaluate them, because we all have limited time to spend on hn and the opportunity cost of missing other, better comments or creating one of your own would lead to intellectual bankruptcy in this site. i leave it on because i’m curious about moderation outcomes here and about the entire distribution of thoughts going on in people’s minds (well, at least those people that’ve found their way to hn)… is that not “thinking” enough?

have you considered that a position of “no moderation” is in and of itself a moderation strategy? anarchy can be dystopian, too…

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> could you provide a link to an example?

I was going to link to an example but removed it before posting because I'd get in trouble. It's the "chilling effect" of censorship. You probably think I'm lying but actually searched on algolia and got the precise thread/comment. But edited it out because of censorship.

> solipsistic flamebait, and a universal negative you can’t possibly prove.

No. I didn't say only I think. I made a general statement about people. You are reading into things.

> I leave showdead on while browsing hn

So do I. You know, it's not that bad. The world didn't end.

> anarchy can be dystopian, too…

Who is advocating for anarchy? I'm for blocking spam. I'm for giving more power to the community/user. Give users the tool to block content/speech/users they don't like. For example, give users the option to set comment thresholds to view the comments.

> I was going to link to an example but removed it before posting because I'd get in trouble

I sincerely doubt you would, since I asked you for the citation and we're discussing moderation in this thread.

In the absence of this, what is anyone reading your original comment to do with your assertion? Are we supposed to take some random internet person at their word?

If it can be used as an example to discuss further, whether for or against moderation, then I think the community here will be better for it.

Maybe you'll prove yourself wrong, and not be censored.

> I sincerely doubt you would, since I asked you for the citation and we're discussing moderation in this thread.

I will if I get assurances that I will not be penalized.

> In the absence of this, what is anyone reading your original comment to do with your assertion? Are we supposed to take some random internet person at their word?

Yes. Because it's an experience many shared. You've used this forum for a while now. You don't think there is a particular bent here? Noticed a lot of cultural posts that lean a certain way? No?

> Maybe you'll prove yourself wrong, and not be censored.

I was proven right many times already. Seems like you want to get me in trouble.

How about this, in a few weeks or maybe months, I'll get bored of HN and then I'll post it.

It's so funny people think that mods are beyond flamebait. Think about why you would want to be a mod? Especially a "tech/business" forum which is at the forefront of political/cultural issues.