[krimbus]

She did say that, just after saying that she would be the first in line if public health professionals recommended it.

[mensetmanusman]

This clip reminds me of Colbert because different people map their mental model onto her communication to parse one thing or the opposite thing.

[Clubber]

It was still an extremely reckless thing for her to say to score some political points though.

[takeda]

It doesn't to me. What she said it is:

- I won't take it if trump alone tells me to take it

- I will be first to take it if experts give their thumbs up

Some people take the whole thing at face value, some take only the first part and ignore the rest.

In 70s Ford used political pressure to speed up swine flu vaccine development and that had negative consequences.

[Jensson]

> It doesn't to me. What she said it is:

That is mostly a nonsense statement, public health professionals and the state recommend the same things. Not all health professionals but it isn't like a vaccine would get rolled out without any health professionals recommending it.

> In 70s Ford used political pressure to speed up swine flu vaccine development and that had negative consequences.

And did public health professionals recommend against taking it then? Or was it just Ford who recommended it against every the wish of every health expert?

I don't see how her statement can be taken as anything but "Republicans are also pro vaccine now, so we need to sow divisiveness in another way!". If she truly cared about peoples health she would have taken the opportunity to unite the people and the politicians over the vaccination issue here.

[takeda]

> That is mostly a nonsense statement, public health professionals and the state recommend the same things. Not all health professionals but it isn't like a vaccine would get rolled out without any health professionals recommending it.

She particularly mentioned Fauci, until 2020 he was respected and known to not being political and served all presidents since Reagan.

> I don't see how her statement can be taken as anything but "Republicans are also pro vaccine now, so we need to sow divisiveness in another way!". If she truly cared about peoples health she would have taken the opportunity to unite the people and the politicians over the vaccination issue here.

I don't at that point we didn't even know if WH wasn't planning to purchase vaccines from Russia (they had them available before Pfizer, I think July 2020).

Once vaccines were available to people, they were approved in other western countries as well, which boosted confidence in them.

[Jensson]

You don't think that public health professionals would recommend a vaccine provided by the Trump administration? Think a bit, why did she even bring that up at all? Why not be happy that Trump talked about getting people vaccinated and tell people that vaccination is now supported by both parties and therefore everyone should go and get vaccinated as soon as possible? You don't think that taking that approach would have changed anything?

But instead she pushed the divisiveness to its max here for no reason at all.