[chmsky00]

It’s not intentionally built to fail

It’s intentionally built to empower people who die, and the baton gets fumbled around once they do

Frankly it’s working peoples fault. Aristocrats financial hegemony would vanish tomorrow if workers became independent agents rather than work for them.

Only 5% of the US hunts anymore. Everyone is dependent on industrialized economic distribution.

Let the bankers in NY and London try to collect mortgages across the world when we stop paying. Let the 800,000 sworn officers in the US police 300 million+ for no pay.

The system is too small to handle the reality. It’s not designed to fail, it’s not designed to scale. We see similar planning effort in the logistics pipeline problems; no slack. Militant efficiency.

Just like with religion, it’s the belief of the masses that enable the co-opting of our agency for their profit. Our belief enables them.

Unions need to stop collecting dues from members and start charging employers subscription fees, or similar changes to social norms. But that’s all politically babysat and everyone is happy to look away from the lack of disruption in that context, while disrupting the shit out of lives dependent on business that is now extracted from the community.

My fellow Americans ended up being a bunch of Daniel Plainviews… I drink your milkshake. But the financial wealth is all a mirage, made up to serve the old ways. Good luck when the masses realize very smart people took away their American dream.

[r00fus]

> Frankly it’s working peoples fault.

I agree with everything but this. This is exactly why the propaganda machine for ages (fairytales) have put royalty/nobles at the top. e.g. It's the knight who kills the dragon, not the townsfolk who band together. Or that magical talent is somehow always hereditary. Or that the king

No, don't blame the working peoples. The countries where the working class got rid of royalty and are consistently demonized.

[chmsky00]

If they’d demand higher wages and healthcare collectively or force austerity on the stock market, they’d have those things. It works for teachers unions, and the like when they strike.

But like you said, we demonize working people instead of empowering them, for a reason.

The goal isn’t perfect mind control, but to avoid thinking in alternatives and enabling the self made nonsense. Convincing everyone they’re temporarily embarrassed millionaires. Implant reasons to ignore alternatives and hammer on them; it’s not how it works for tradition, for country… one reason after another why we can’t politically just be decent.

It works not because people are lazy but mirror neurons. Biology. The public must be the one to do different so the public sees itself do different. Knows different is doable.

Relativity has some deep network effects we don’t often think about. We can’t experience otherwise doing the same all day.

[gruez]

> e.g. It's the knight who kills the dragon, not the townsfolk who band together.

You think it's propaganda that professional soldiers have a better shot at killing a mythical creature than a peasant militia?

[WarOnPrivacy]

>> Frankly it’s working peoples fault.

> I agree with everything but this.

I'd like to examine the principle from another angle, with the following question.

Regarding US voters who reelect pols that legislate in response to major campaign donations: How much responsibility do those voters have for legislative corruption?

[virgilp]

> Only 5% of the US hunts anymore.

Not sure how exactly that is an "only", sounds pretty high to me. Does US really need more than 5% hunters? I'd be more concerned about the percentage of thinkers.

You can romanticize the prehistoric times and the middle ages all you want, but the reality is that the "working class" had it much worse back in the times when 50% were hunters.

[ClumsyPilot]

"Only 5% of the US hunts anymore. Everyone is dependent on industrialized economic distribution."

There are 25 million deer in US, there are 300 million people.

I sympathise with your tirade, but all systems of power work this way. If tomorrow morning all people of Russia would forget who Putin is, he would become nobody.