[busymom0]

Age, obesity and health conditions play a massive role in the hospitalizations and deaths. When the vaccine isn’t preventing catching and spreading the virus, it makes absolutely zero sense to have mandates. And based on Israel and Australia, the mandate doesn’t stop at 2 shots.

[KozmoNau7]

Full vaccination greatly reduces the risk of infection and thus also the risk of transmission.

https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2021/p0607-mrna-reduce-ri...

https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2021/09/covid-va...

Additionally, the Delta variant (currently the most prevalent by far) hits young people and children hard.

Even if you consider the elderly, the obese and the chronically sick to be "expendable" (which is an absolutely abhorrent worldview), your claims simply are not correct.

[busymom0]

Edit: your CDC link is outdated. It uses data from December 13, 2020 to April 10, 2021. That’s ancient and even before delta was around. The second link also doesn’t use delta data. Look at more newer data or just look at Singapore, Israel, Iceland. That proves my point.

Your last statement shows you aren’t interested in this honestly because you are more interested in virtue signalling and claiming moral superiority. How you came to the conclusion from my statement about me be young fit and healthy (and thus very low risk) to somehow mean I consider elderly, obese and sick to be expendable is beyond me.

I looked at the data for my age group and found that there’s 5-7x more deaths and a lot more serious injuries from car accidents than Covid.

Also you are wrong. Even in asymptomatic or mild cases, the viral loads is the same and you can spread the virus. The virus grows in your nose and pathways and can spread even if you are vaccinated and within the 3 month period after which the effectiveness drastically declines.

How people expect every young person to keep getting injected every 6 months is beyond me.

In Ontario, 36.6% of the cases on October 8 were fully vaccinated and 34.5% of deaths in Canada in the week of September 4-11 were fully vaxxed. We had under 10% fully vaxxed till June 10, so vast majority of our vaccinations occurred in last 3 months. The vaccine effectiveness decline is clearly visible as the weeks go by.

In Iceland, their recent outbreak started from fully vaxxed individuals even when they had around 60% of population vaxxed.

These vaccines are only a potential symptom mitigator. That doesn’t mean it should get mandated.

[MattRix]

What’s wrong with people getting vaccinations every 6 months until Covid isn’t an issue? It only takes a few minutes, it’s hardly a big deal. I’m not sure what your Ontario stats have to do with anything.

[EricE]

Have you been looking at the VAERS database and the spike since the emergency authorized vaccines were issued? You want to keep those spikes going every six months?

And what makes you think it will only be every six months. COVID viruses are the family that contains the common cold. Why have we never tried to vaccinate for the common cold? It mutates too fast and too often!

You aren't going to shelter in place or vaccine away this virus. It's here, it's a permanent part of our existence and we better figure out more sane ways to deal with it that don't also destroy the economies of the world.

Sweden never locked down - their curves match pretty much everyone else. New Zealand finally gave up on their extreme quarantine policy and admitted that the virus is there too. So much for being the darling for how to handle the virus and the rest of the world being idiots.

Ugh.