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by hairofadog 1709 days ago
This isn’t a criticism of your comment, but I have always thought it was funny that devout practitioners of those religions seem to find ways of technically adhering to those rules while at the same time completely flouting the spirit of them. See “Heter Iska and other evasions” here

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loans_and_interest_in_Judaism

…or “sabbath mode” on many appliances on the market.

The funny part to me is believing in an all-powerful and omnipotent god whom you can nonetheless fool with semantics and shuffling papers.

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> The funny part to me is believing in an all-powerful and omnipotent god whom you can nonetheless fool with semantics and shuffling papers.

There's no fooling going on. There's just faith traditions that believe God, either generally or for specific subsets of the overall rule set, is extremely concerned with the letter of the rules and not what humans might infer the spirit to be from the letter. That is, the rules are the rules, not an imperfect approximation serving some higher but difficult to express set of rules.

> but I have always thought it was funny that devout practitioners of those religions seem to find ways of technically adhering to those rules while at the same time completely flouting the spirit of them.

We don't do that in Islam.

I would be interested in hearing more if you feel like elaborating.
For example, the Quran explicitly calls out the behavior of a tribe of Jews who, to tried to avoid the prohibition of fishing on the Sabbath: https://quran.com/7/163

We also have explicit texts in Hadith that call out and reprimand attempts to bypass usury by buying an item in installments, then selling it back to the original seller for a lower cash price. The effective transaction being a money for money contract with a disposable item in the middle. All this is prohibited.

You will not find a single Muslim scholar say that it is ok for a woman to wear a wig instead of a headscarf, even though technically she is still covering her hair.

There was a discussion about this in the Netherlands. Ultimately it was concluded that Jesus was less important than the future of the nation. And these people were 100% orthodox protestants. Quantitative easing is just too good like that.
And now people cry about financial inequality. Sometimes the easy things out have long term consequences. We've living those consequences today across the globe.