[hunterb123]

what are the chances those people still haven't contracted covid? why ignore natural immunity?

are you okay with this new normal, comply or die? (an economic death)

[jasonlaramburu]

I believe that American workers have a right to a safe workplace. It is a fact that the federal government has the power to set and regulate workplace safety standards. This is not new.

[listenallyall]

So why not continue testing unvaccinated people, and allow them to work as long as the test comes back negative? Why throw a blanket over an entire group, even when the majority of them are perfectly healthy?

[jasonlaramburu]

>So why not continue testing unvaccinated people, and allow them to work as long as the test comes back negative?

They can. The US mandate allows unvaccinated workers to either get vaccinated or submit to weekly testing.

[SideburnsOfDoom]

> why ignore natural immunity?

Why avoid vaccination, after infection? Apparently it's quite beneficial to get vaccinated then.

[hunterb123]

risk cost analysis. if you have enough protection already, why add more at the risk of a potential side effect, that's up to the individual.

why not exercise, why not inject yourself with x, why not do this or that. why don't you just get in the train.

why not force everyone to not be fat while we're at it. we're already forcing people to show their papers, why not force everyone to have a vaccine for every disease? why not just keep everyone in a jail cell so they can't be harmed.

[SideburnsOfDoom]

> risk cost analysis.

Risk of vaccination is low, benefit good, seems legit.

> that's up to the individual

Sure, if and only if it's also up to the employer to choose as well. Individual choice without accountably for the consequences of that choice would be nice, but it's in short supply on account of the deadly pandemic.

> why not force everyone to not be fat while we're at it.

This is a pointless question. Do fat nurses harm patients thereby? No.

> why not force everyone to have a vaccine for every disease?

There are many contexts in which vaccinations are required. _shrug_

> why not just keep everyone in a jail cell so they can't be harmed.

You're not making rational arguments here, just throwing emotional words around.

[hunterb123]

vaccinated people are protected against unvaccinated people, the only argument is unvaccinated people take up ICU beds.

fat people take up ICU beds for healthy people, being fat is a choice and is the #1 cause of morbidity for covid.

the emotional argument is coming from the side saying everyone needs to be 100% vaccinated so we don't all die.

give me liberty or give me death is not just a phrase.

[SideburnsOfDoom]

> vaccinated people are protected against unvaccinated people,

Again, all or nothing thinking. It's not binary; protected completely or unprotected. I doesn't work like that. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28800966

The more unvaccinated staff there are, the more risk there is to all staff, vaccinated or not.

And tell me, what about the patients? What if they're not vaccinated through no fault of their own (too young, immune-compromised etc)? Do they not deserve safety in hospital?

I want liberty too, liberty from the risk of being around unvaccinated people. I understand that I won't get that liberty in all contexts, but in some such as hospitals and aircraft, I am glad of it.

Your arguments are full of emotion, but they just don't add up. "other side" means that you think you're fighting someone.