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by sant0sk1 6499 days ago
There are some absolutes in the world which cannot be bypassed by cultural mores.

Eating a child is wrong regardless of how one would justify it.

2 comments

No, there are no absolutes.

Lets break it down. Is killing children always wrong?

In many countries it's legal (today) to kill children. In some cultures surplus children were left to die of exposure (Sparta for example).

And once the child is dead - well some cultures eat the dead as a form of burial.

There goes your absolute.

Just so you know: it's not possible to create a moral system from first principles. It always has to be imposed from outside. In most countries the bible serves as the starting point.

If you want, you can have one guy decide, and use his ideas. But you can never defend them as absolute and correct. Another person, just as logical, can come up with conflicting ideas, and you can never prove one is right and the other wrong.

How come you think that?

I cannot see any biological advantage of not eating your children in emergency situations -- i.e. where you need to eat the child (survival, extortion, ...) and she won't survive anyways.

By that logic, you could justify absolutely anything.
Depending on your standards, you can justify absolutely anything. There is nothing that is inherently right or wrong -- perhaps something that is right or wrong in most views.

Our standards have changed, too -- not even a century ago, holocausts were considered absolutely appropriate (even by scientists!).

No. Despite your opinions, and your best efforts to redefine good and evil, there are things which are inherently wrong. Murder is one of those things. All humans know murder is wrong, whether they admit it or not.
Right, so the Samurai, who would randomly cut the heads off of people they didn't fancy, knew they were doing something wrong, and yet were totally okay with it? Beheading a few peasants was, after all, the right way to test out a new sword... there's even a term in Japanese for it: Tameshi-giri.

Plenty of societies, both ancient and modern, have legalized, or even encouraged, what we define as 'murder'.

And note that I'm not arguing that murder is acceptable; rather, that the definition for it changes so much between societies as to make the statement "Murder is wrong in all human societies." a completely meaningless phrase.

A likely explanation for the prohibition against the killing of other humans is strictly pragmatic: Societies where members can kill each other freely will self-destruct. This has nothing to do with 'murder being wrong', as much as free homicide not being a very stable evolutionary path.