[rohitb91]

Or the odds of dying of covid for young people vs a car accident. car accidents are significantly more dangerous.

And before people bring up side effects or other long term damage, most people don’t die in car accidents and suffer from ptsd, whiplash, broken bones etc.

Yet bring this up and you’re automatically an anti Vaxxer.

People are absolutely terrible at evaluating personal risk.

One of my coworkers drove across Canada to visit home at one point instead of taking a flight because of covid.

Young people should be more concerned with staying away from opioids, social media, friends that are racing cars, and binge drinking at parties.

Yet, the media has 14 year olds terrified of covid.

Lunacy.

[nojokes]

Actually deaths because of car accidents are less frequent than dying because of COVID-19 for 25-45 year old in US this year. For 15-24 year old COVID-19 is third leading cause of nonviolent death after cancer and cardiovascular problems. Dying of flu is 10 times less likely and this year almost infinite times less likely so far.

There is one very important difference - reducing risk of death because of COVID-19 can be done very easily. Not so with driving.

[angelzen]

Do you have a source for "third leading cause of nonviolent death"? According to CDC, a 24yo female death has a 113 : 2416 = 4.7% chance of being caused by covid, and a 24yo male death has a 195 : 6756 = 2.9% chance of being caused by covid. Not trivial, but I wouldn't call something with < 5% prevalence 'leading cause'. More accurate: "for 15-24 year old covid is a minor cause of death".

https://data.cdc.gov/resource/3apk-4u4f.csv

[nojokes]

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr70/nvsr70-09-508.pdf gives you leading causes of death for 2019 by age groups.

But the groups do not match perfectly so you have to recalculate some https://wonder.cdc.gov/ucd-icd10.html

[angelzen]

Thanks for sharing. It comes across as a stretch to focus on 'nonviolent causes of death', when the first three causes of deaths in 2019 10-24 age group (page 11) dominate the charts with cumulative 73%, and the first 'nonviolent cause of death' is cancer, coming in a distant fourth at 5.4% of total deaths.

[nojokes]

If it was not US, homicide would be somewhere below diabetes so I would say that it is not a stretch to ignore these causes. Beside, these are more or less environment and genetics determined. If you are black man in 20s in US, I feel really sorry for you but this is your reality. But the risk of COVID-19 death can be manipulated.

[tshaddox]

> Yet bring this up and you’re automatically an anti Vaxxer.

I would only make that guess if you brought up car accidents and were opposed to driving test requirements, wearing seat belts, car safety regulations, etc.