[CubsFan1060]

The judge outright said this was ok:

“In such a hypothetical world, developers could potentially avoid the commission while benefitting from Apple’s innovation and intellectual property free of charge. The Court presumes that in such circumstances that Apple may rely on imposing and utilizing a contractual right to audit developers annual accounting to ensure compliance with its commissions, among other methods. Of course, any alternatives to IAP (including the foregoing) would seemingly impose both increased monetary and time costs to both Apple and the developers.”

[Danieru]

Wow, that's insane. She really did give a toothless ruling.

Thanks for correcting me.

[worrycue]

It’s less that it’s toothless and more that Apple won the case - she ruled 9/10 counts in Apple’s favour.

[FDSGSG]

It's not insane, there's simply no reason for why Apple shouldn't get their cut.

[Aeolun]

Microsoft doesn’t get a cut from Windows apps. Why should Apple?

[CubsFan1060]

Why are you comparing iOS to Windows? MacOS to Windows, or iOS to Android make more sense.

A more fair comparison would be andorid. Or the Windows Phone, where Microsoft took 20%: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Phone

[Aeolun]

I’m comparing a small general purpose computer to a big one. How is that an invalid comparison?

Just because everyone does the same thing on a mobile phone doesn’t make it any more sensible.

[CubsFan1060]

Because it's a cherry picked example that ignores a lot of factors.

I could easily make the statement "Microsoft gets a cut of everything purchased on Xbox, why shouldn't Apple?"

To which I suspect your response would be waving your hands around something that is ill defied (General Purpose Computing), and then trying to define it to fit your narrative.

[GeekyBear]

Microsoft chose to create Windows as an open platform where they didn't get a cut of application sales.

Microsoft chose to create XBox as a platform where developers who didn't pay them a cut could not sell software.

Microsoft attempted to convert Windows into a platform where developers who didn't pay them a cut could not sell software with Windows RT, but it failed in the marketplace.

[threeseed]

Microsoft is definitely the anomaly.

Sony, Microsoft, Nintendo, Google, Valve, Epic etc all take their cut.

[Aeolun]

I was feeling sort of confused by me feeling like Valve and Epic were not supposed to be in that list.

But it’s because I have a choice. I can choose to use Valve, or Epic, or nothing at all.

Hell, I can even choose never to use the Nintendo store, and just purchase plain cardridges.

The same is not true for the others, but especially not for Apple.

[FDSGSG]

>Hell, I can even choose never to use the Nintendo store, and just purchase plain cardridges.

Do you really think that Nintendo doesn't get their cut on plain cartridges?

[wayneftw]

...and the fact that everybody is doing it makes it good and right, right?

[Danieru]

Hey FDSGSG I see you used my comment to implement your reply. As you no doubt know my API usage policy is 30% of your gross.

Note, you cannot deduct the 30% your electric utility charges you, nor the 30% your PC monitor maker charges you, nor the 30% your desk maker charges, you'll have to figure out how to finance your development out of the other -40%.

If this is not acceptable obviously you could have written your reply to my comment under any other comment. There are many other comments you could freely leave your reply to me under. You choose to use my comment to base your reply to no doubt because that's the only one I read. Still of course, I do not have a monopoly on replies to me under all posts on the internet. Replies under my comment are of course not a monopoly because you can freely reply to me anywhere else. For example, you could have replied to my post on your grandma's Facebook.